The Gene Patent Question

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  • MorallyQuestionable
    MorallyQuestionable  1 weeks back

    I Think allowing a company to Patent something that was discovered using money produced by taxes is stupid. Of a private company Patents something thats linked to healthcare there should be a Universal Maximum that a company can charge based on the cost of production. (200% of production cost for example)

    • Şahin yaşar
      Şahin yaşar  2 weeks back

      Gene Patent is shit. Gene must be unpatentable because noone want to become someones property. I wont recognise gene patent no matter what or who

      • AurumTitanos
        AurumTitanos  3 weeks back

        Woah there buddy, don't let the lib's hear you say that intelligence is genetic.

        • AurumTitanos
          AurumTitanos  3 weeks back

          Fuck Monsanto. They try to make the non genetically modified seed illegal. Its absolutely ridiculous.

          • BBB H
            BBB H  4 weeks back

            It boggles my mind how some people hear the term 'GMO' and then, somehow, think that makes the product somehow unnatural ('Frankenfoods?). ALL domesticated plant, and animals have had their genes modified by humans for thousands of years- it's called selective breeding, etc!

            Whenever a farmer or rancher or gardener pick some offspring (seeds, etc) over another, or allow only some of their stock to reproduce, they are modifying the genome.of the original plant, etc- since, without human intervention, different offspring would have developed - this is why we have big, juicy strawberrie, fat cows, colorful roses, and so on! This has gone on from the start of agriculture and animal husbandry! This ABSOLUTELY includes any and all 'ORGANIC' plants and animals...

            But, when it is done in in the traditional manner- such as picking the best bulls and cows and allowing only them to breed the next generation - it's a roll of the dice- somewhat random. Conversely, when using scientific, targeted gene manipulation, the breeder, etc, will be more likely to get exactly what they want; instead of how, in the old paradigm, it took centuries to breed the desirable outcome, it can be done all at ONCE!

            There is NO fundamental different, other than that, now, we have more accurate control over what we grow... And the ability to do so has, LITERALLY, saved perhaps a BILLION or more lives!

            BUT, uneducated reactionary luddites hear 'science's and think it's, at best, a perversion of nature, and, at worst, some kind of Machiavellian conspiracy to poison and control the masses to benefit the wealthy... WTF, eh?

            Let's save LIVES first. If they don't like it, they can live like peasants and grow their own food. (I suspect 99.99+% dont.do ever-growing they'd rather complain - just.like the anti-vaxx idiots! Maybe it just boils down to the fact that he modern world is such a nice place, relative to the past, that the poor-me whiners have to actively look for causes that they may participate in (in a blatantly masturbatory manner) without actually having to risk anything to support!)

            F'm millienal jackasses!

            • allan Bell
              allan Bell  4 weeks back

              WHAT THE HELL IS THIS ASS HOLE TALKING ABOUT? YOU SO SMART YOU SOUND DUMB?

              • Joshua Gherlone
                Joshua Gherlone  1 months back

                Mentioning Monsanto's corn without mentioning how awful Monsanto CURRENTLY CONTINUES TO BE is a mistake I can't really leave.
                Monsanto tried to abuse a simple fact of life to crush any and all competition their corn had.
                Plants reproduce.
                Plants spread, in a wide variety of ways.
                These ways are not all ways that can be controlled normally.
                Monsanto started suing farmers who lived near the farmers who bought their seeds.
                Why?
                They were stealing Monsanto property.
                How?
                The seed from Farmer A's Monsanto-Approved Corn Field had been blown, carried by birds, who cares what, to Farmer B's Monsanto-Unapproved Corn Field. Let's be VERY clear here: Farmer B did not at any point purchase, steal, use, or otherwise acquire Monsanto seeds.
                Then Monsanto does testing of normally purchased corn from the fields of Farmer B, and proceeds to hunt the poor guy with an army of private investigators, thugs, and lawyers, suing his balls off if they get the chance.
                And make no mistake: They will do anything and everything to DESTROY you, regardless of how you acquired the seeds, or even if they're wrong and you never acquired the seeds at all, and will not stop until they either sue you into the ground or discover that they were mistaken... At which point they vanish without a trace. No attempt to apologize, no attempt to cover any of the massive bills they've caused a completely innocent bystander when they were clearly in the wrong, nothing. They're just fucking GONE.
                They're criminally vicious and evil and deserve to be destroyed, but are dominating the market for a dozen different staple crops and that number grows by the year.
                Think it's hard to avoid supporting China?
                Try avoiding supporting Monsanto, see how fucking far you get.

                • AnSan
                  AnSan  2 months back

                  The dangerous thing about human gene editing (patenting it i mean) like you mention at the end of the video is that pretty much only rich people could afford it, if it were patented and owned by a private corporation and not public. I'm all for making humans immune to cancer etc, but the way i see it, if it's not a government or international organization that owns the patent, these modification could well create a technocracy between billionares and the rest of us who probably wouldn't be able to afford such an operation considering how life changing it is, every company knows they can ask as much as they want since there's lives at stake.

                  • Max Headrom
                    Max Headrom  2 months back

                    The problem is Monsanto charging fees from people who had their seeds contaminated by the genetically modified seeds ...

                    • Atirix
                      Atirix  2 months back

                      Intellectual property doesn't make sense period.

                      • Ferenc Gazdag
                        Ferenc Gazdag  2 months back

                        You can't own the genome.



                        The genome owns you.




                        Seriously, the first life was genes floating in water copying themselves, and soon they started creating complex proteins, and cells to ensure their survival.

                        • David Justin
                          David Justin  2 months back

                          Wypipo are at it again!!!

                          • Lúzia A Morta
                            Lúzia A Morta  2 months back

                            Humans aren't property.

                            • Jackson
                              Jackson  2 months back

                              so if you geneticly modified a female human, you could techniquly remove a piece of DNA that can cause cancer and replace it with a simular piece of DNA but cant cause cancer, that would stop the spread of that DNA down the future DNA line to their children, unless they reproduce with someone with a cancer causing DNA

                              • MANSOOR AHMAD
                                MANSOOR AHMAD  2 months back

                                Now I'm genuinely scared of the future

                                • Haris Uzunovic
                                  Haris Uzunovic  2 months back

                                  Hands down one of your best videos

                                  • joseph lemons
                                    joseph lemons  2 months back

                                    Stupid Fucking College Kids

                                    • Museum of Drawing
                                      Museum of Drawing  2 months back

                                      I’m sure the Chinese or Russians already jumped crispr. Aren’t you?

                                      • PongoXBongo
                                        PongoXBongo  3 months back

                                        I never understood the objection to golden rice. People seem to care more about protecting their stupid bananas than protecting children from blindness. Both are GMOs.

                                        • : D
                                          : D  3 months back

                                          *COUGH* catgirls *COUGH*

                                          • david nichols
                                            david nichols  4 months back

                                            Wanna get REALLY rich? Find the straight hair gene for Black chicks!

                                            • Lauri Levälehto
                                              Lauri Levälehto  4 months back

                                              I guess it might be a good idea to create a more regulated patent system. The current system rewards the inventor with quite a long monopoly. I think in many cases it would be better to have a system where companies just need to pay royalties to the inventor. And the country (of which patent you've got) would determine the size of this royalty.

                                              • Abhishek Mashetty
                                                Abhishek Mashetty  4 months back

                                                Wat if the genetically modified human discovers/invents something, will that person have the patent of the product or the company which modified the person will have the patent right

                                                • Azaurus1
                                                  Azaurus1  4 months back

                                                  gene patenting should be a thing but with advances in cutting the cost of such technologies the timeline of the patent should be shorter.

                                                  • 3a3a3a
                                                    3a3a3a  4 months back

                                                    Who wouldnt want their child to be better than the rest

                                                    • Doc Brown
                                                      Doc Brown  5 months back

                                                      Original corn, wheat and etc were all much dif w very few grains, humans have been hybridizing and custom growing foods for eons, little dif vers of DNA modification. So called 'pure breeds' of cats and dogs are DNA modification thru extensive inbreeding, if you have a pure breed, you have an inbred. There's no such thing as a natural dog, dogs didn't evolve naturally, they were bred by humans from wolves over 1000s of yrs. The modern cow, or any common cow used by humans for the past 1000+ yrs, selectively inbred. Same w most goats and sheep.

                                                      • Eidolon Specus
                                                        Eidolon Specus  5 months back

                                                        Capitalism ruins everything in Science.

                                                        • Gawdat
                                                          Gawdat  5 months back

                                                          at 1:38 you misspeak, cancer is almost never "contracted" except in rare circumstances.

                                                          • A T O M E N T
                                                            A T O M E N T  6 months back

                                                            GMH Genetically Modified Human a product of Mansanto.

                                                            • Qwertyuiop Lkjhgfdsazxcvbnm

                                                              um, actually, autism is very difficult to simply edit out because it is controlled my MAGOTS (many assorted genes of tiny significance).

                                                              • Soleon
                                                                Soleon  6 months back

                                                                "Without the ability to make money off of genetic testing, it can be argued that many companies won't have the motivation to study genetic predispositions." um???? saving people from breast cancer and impacting potentially millions of life isn't enough motivation for most companies to do the research? how can companies be so... stupid

                                                                • stylesrj
                                                                  stylesrj  6 months back

                                                                  Stupid isn't the word.
                                                                  It's greedy. No one thinks of the long-term, they only want short-term results.

                                                              • bep the shep
                                                                bep the shep  6 months back

                                                                There's another side to Monsanto seed rights. Strictly Non-GMO soybean farmers are losing lawsuits with Monsanto's extensive legal team after neighboring farms using Monsanto's Roundup-resistant seed got into the farms of non-GMO farmers. They're forced to pay for the seed or to face lawsuits that often result in the farms going out of business.

                                                                While I can't see an immediate fix to the issue at hand, we should work to seeing both sides of the problem.

                                                                • Xintian Wang
                                                                  Xintian Wang  6 months back

                                                                  Genetically modified human being has been created in China!

                                                                  • pmcllc
                                                                    pmcllc  6 months back

                                                                    Bring the superhumans

                                                                    • lukewarmtea137
                                                                      lukewarmtea137  7 months back

                                                                      7:33 it's incredible math just incredible math

                                                                      • VineFynn
                                                                        VineFynn  7 months back

                                                                        Keep in mind that allowing GM crops to proliferate would probably fuck up the environment

                                                                        • aozen
                                                                          aozen  7 months back

                                                                          Human genes are not an economical means for the greedy it destroys research done by any other facility basically telling someone you are not allowed to do anything even if you found a cure for something genetically you are not allowed to do anything cs yes we have that gene for ourselfs wtf!

                                                                          • Megakoresh
                                                                            Megakoresh  7 months back

                                                                            USA in a nutshell. A lot of drama and little substance, as seems to be the case with many of these videos.

                                                                            The real problem is that they took the research paid for by taxpayers, and abused the fuck out of it by charging inconceivable prices for something that is life-critical technology, which is in no way "luxury" so they could get ridiculously rich off the people that funded their research in the first place. If they were ethical with their business practices, no one would sue them in the first place. That's basically how US medical system works. I never hear of something like this happening in EU. Typically the new technology will get picked up by whoever could secure funding for it's usage. A patent implies a % of the profit payout to the original research team for some time or up to a certain sum. It's controlled by the government and ensures healthy competition without anyone being able to secure a ridiculous monopoly by being lucky enough to be in the right place at the right time and sleazy enough to take advantage.

                                                                            • General Phoney
                                                                              General Phoney  8 months back

                                                                              Does this mean that employers will look for ‘organic humans’ in the future

                                                                              • Vincent Gallagher
                                                                                Vincent Gallagher  9 months back

                                                                                Thanks for the info. A little “preachy” at the end but good info overall.

                                                                                • MrMetricSystem
                                                                                  MrMetricSystem  9 months back

                                                                                  they do not own the gnome now do something novel with the discovery like making a gene therapy for those affected that is patent-able and i think it might be considered a real cure for breast cancer but they are too busy selling tests for dna and doing mastectomies

                                                                                  • GiggitySam Entz
                                                                                    GiggitySam Entz  9 months back

                                                                                    0:33 Left-handed DNA! :D

                                                                                    • Cory Scott
                                                                                      Cory Scott  10 months back

                                                                                      Stoked for designer babies though

                                                                                      • Sunny shah
                                                                                        Sunny shah  10 months back

                                                                                        You can't patent things that occur naturally,
                                                                                        however, you can patent modifications to those things that you do through your own tests and methods.
                                                                                        And Myriad received funding by taxpayers, and they still charged people $4,000 for the discovery of that gene.
                                                                                        Like what the hell is wrong with these corporate goons

                                                                                        • Zes
                                                                                          Zes  10 months back

                                                                                          no such thing as gene or not

                                                                                          • Richard Gray
                                                                                            Richard Gray  11 months back

                                                                                            intellectual property right doesnt exist.

                                                                                            • Daily Dose Of Airplanes
                                                                                              Daily Dose Of Airplanes  11 months back

                                                                                              Ok, so I shouldn’t patent anything so I don’t get in trobule.

                                                                                              • RedXlV
                                                                                                RedXlV  11 months back

                                                                                                It's idiotic that patenting natural genes was ever allowed. It goes against the very concept of patents. Patents are meant to cover only *inventions,* not discoveries.