New Script Report on the Failed Pilot Episode of Game of Thrones (Conclusion)
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- Published: 04 April 2019
- New Script Report on the Failed Pilot Episode of Game of Thrones (Conclusion)
- #Game of Throne #ASOIAF #A Song of Ice & Fire #GRRM #George R.R. Martin #David Benioff #Dan Weiss #pilot #unaired #original #Winter is Coming #Season 8 #leak #showrunners #screenwriting #writers #Cerei Lannister #Jaime Lannister #Sansa Stark #Brienne of Tarth #Bryan Cogman #White Walkers #chains #wight hunt #Daenerys Targaryen #analysis #podcast #commentary #interview
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Ned- The Kingslayer and the Imp.
There you go D&D, it almost seems natural too!
@Camillo Giulietti This is brilliant.
Euron Greyjoy should have been introduced in season 5. They should have taken time to build him up. We should have seen him running amick in Essos. Then when he reappears on The Iron Islands it would have been more meaningful. Instead in season 6 you ask yourself who is this guy?
Well... the truth finally came out... daddy was rich... dumb and dumber were handed the job... it wasn't earned.
Someone relying entirely on subtext? I think we know why fandoms are born and thrive with that kind of malarkey. (Me: Looking at you, Supernatural.)
you fucked up at 3:50 i'm sorry
I wonder how many of their future characters will have their mouths sewn shut..... lol
I always suspected D&D were a couple of discount Michael Bays
I honestly thought Jamie raped Cersei
The Dragon speed problem. Dragons are mythical creatures so surely they could be as fast or slow as you want them to be because their fictional creatures and nobody knows how fast a dragon flew through the air.
There is a group of people running hollywood, and they just give out jobs for the boys. As long as you belong to the group, you get handed the keys to the kingdom, it is not a meritocracy. That's why screen names exist .. it's so they can hide the fact that they all belong to the same group.
This is great stuff. Honestly I'm shocked at how bad their writing is. This is beyond amateur. The dialogue was often excellent .. but they completely fail at the nuts and bolts of conveying information and simple character reference within the script. However, a lot of these fails fall on the director's shoulders. The director is supposed to get the story from the page onto the screen, or invent it if it's not there. It helps if it's all on the page, but sometime it's not.
This worries me cos Cogman is gunna be working on the Lotr Second Age series too. Hope the other writers on it compensate
The Dragon Demands I heard before Cogman was meant to be hired as ‘lore master’ whatever that means, but I shouldn’t worry if they have serious people like Tom Shipey and the Tolkien estate supervising
The Dragon Demands Thanks! I checked it out, it was really helpful.
Simon Stepan I made a later video about that, check it out; yeah he’s actually low ranking on it
Remember hearing bit of the script from Maisie Williams and or Gwendoline Christie that in the bit when the two meet Arya had it in the scripts that she thinks Brienne a weirdo but likes her. It makes me wish the show runners were animators instead of writers because it drilled into the bones of animators that clear visuals that tell things clearly. Not “oh people will get it” and then being shocked when some people didn’t or some people didn’t get it because they badly executed it
Saw funny thing when Kyle MacLachlan said when filming with David Lynch he would be abstract in his instructions like “Be like Elvis” 😂 but these script saying things so information specific . How the fuck do they think audiences will pick up on such specific things. It also explains why many actors clash with people’s responses because they had it laid out in the script so to the actor it makes sense
I did not pick up at all that Sansa was trying to warn Brianna. And actually, everything was confusing there. I remember later Podric saying something that maybe Sansa doesn't need her. If so then later near Winterfell Sansa says she is not going to marry Boltons and LF first says "ok, we will turn around if you don't want" then he gives her few reasons why she should and she agrees. Was she scared to disagree? I didn't see her scared of LF, more as she agreed with LF's plan.
I thought Sansa was being unsure and thinking that she was a threat
Some of the 1st things I was taught in scriptwriting classes were:
1. don't write "the camera shows this and that", just write what is on the screen;
2. don't use actors as puppets, it's bad writing and they hate it;
3. the script will never be seen by the audience, so things have to be clear on screen, not just on the page.
Honestly, it's shocking how they bluffed their way to getting the two pilots done, then got eight seasons. The poster boys for "fake it until you make it". And worst of all, it doesn't look like they tried to learn. Not from listening to experienced screenwriters, or reading a manual, or reading well-written scripts.
No wonder the feeling I had when the series ended was "If I handed that in as an assignment, my teacher wouldn't take it and would make me rewrite the whole thing."
D&D are masters at gaslighting their audience: "what do you mean you didn't see Daenerys' tyranny coming? IT'S WAS RIGHT THERE IN HER SMILE SINCE SEASON 5."
M C Oh my goodness you cracked me up with this comment! 😂 So perfect!
who went into the water and attached those chains to the dragon...none of them go in the water
I love your content, but look into a new mic or something to take the sharpness off the "s's"
Did D&D described in the script annotations for Beyond the Wall the existence of scuba zombies putting the chains on to dead Viserion?
I don't have all of them.
It'S aLL rIgHt ThErE iN tHe ScRiPt DeScRiPtIoN !
Why would there be a dock with huge chains like that in a random lake?
That was my first thought: those chains are too big for that tiny dock.
D&D literally are hacks... they know nothing about what they're doing _and_ they're talentless. "Subversion" _is_ a hack fraud mantra.
I recently found out that these losers did Wolverine, the turd that made me boycott all Xmen movies after that. I guess I will not go to the cinema or pay for their Star Wars films either, they haven't changed.
I feel vindicated now because after raging about how dumb and horrible Wolverine (Origin) was, my friends thought I was overreacting. So I'm not mad or too critical, it was just a Dumb & Dumber plot.
Thanks for your video comments, at least I feel a bit better now.
That explains why Arya's sexscene was so cringe-y. They have no idea what they are doing and can't portray emotions during sex other than raw lust and rape.
A bit a find interesting. Stephan Warbeck was originally slated to compose the soundtrack but left for some reason. Ramin Djawadi was only brought on ten weeks prior to the season 1 premiere. If the timeline works out I think that means Warbeck's music was featured in the Pilot. God, I hope they release it someday.
2 j000'z and a sKeem....Again!!!
I died laughing at run before little fingers men kill you.. I missed that!!
I wouldn’t use handmaids take as an example of good writing. There are so many times in season 2 where they just focus on Elizabeth moss’s face and have her mug thecamera. Basically the same thing of game of thrones.
Kinda old news but I read somewhere online that D&D threaten Kit Harington by sending him shots and scenes of the failed unaired pilot. Any thoughts as to why they need to threaten him? Could their reasons for threatening him be the same reason they had him do nothing in the long night?
...I think that was just a joke
14:40 The answer to the question of where the chains came from is simple.
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Wait for it
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...they were in *cold* storage.
I think the term you're looking for is "Theory of Mind", Dragon. Not empathy exactly but the inability to see how another person could view the exact same stimuli and be affected differently/come to a different conclusion - the "putting yourself in someone else's shoes" effect, if you will.
Spot on dragon, the problem with stupid is that it doesn't know it's stupid
You should watch the scene I think it was Season 5 after Sansa went with the Boltons and Littlefinger is in King's Landing talking with Cersei where he says "make me Warden of the north". I always thought this was the strangest thing, it's as if they are not even in the same room. Aiden Gillen seems like he's looking at the void as if Cersei is not there. I don't know if it was done on purpose but it is so strange. Like the actors are not working with one another.
Sometimes production schedules lead to shooting different shots without the other one there. Maybe the dialogue was redone? I don't know, it could be anything.
D&D are idiots. As soon as GRRM wasn’t there to hold their hands, it’s consistently gotten worse. As far as portraying information to audience, I didn’t really ever think about that, because I had read the books several times before the show came out. I never thought about how confusing it would be for audiences that had no idea about the story.
When I first starting watching it I got so confused with some of the characters like Beric Dondarion being sent to go get the Mountain because he was fucking shit up and going crazy in season 1. I never put together that was the dude in the Brotherhood without Banners that Arya meets up with because I don’t believe we really get introduced to Beric in season 1. Ned just mentions him and that’s it. It wasn’t until I watched the series for the third or fourth time that I put it together.
New fan here. I bought the bluray set last month and tore through it. I loved season 1 - 4. I was stunned how much of a nose dive the show took with season 5 onwards. Good to know I wasnt crazy.
Season 5 and 6 were okay... But season 7 and 8, while being entertaining at times, had atrocious script writing. The dialogue was very shallow.
I knew nothing of the books. Started reading them after season 1. Couldn't get enough. Then season 8 happened and well, I had enough lol
Actually the scene you’re talking about, the slaver tells Daenerys her reign is over. She responds, saying my reign has just begun, she mounts Drogon and burns ships that are throwing stones at Mereen, and Greworm kills the two slavers who throw the other one under the bus.
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''My tyranny has just begun, motherfucker''
I guess that's how they explain the mad queen bullshit in season 8. It was in the script all along, just not for anyone but themselves to know lol
The script has that dialogue, but THEN she "shoots a glare that says, MotherF-er, my reign has only just begun"
GOT behind the scenes feels very wizard of Oz esque to me please pay no attention to the puppeteer behind the curtain rather take a gander at this floating sack of hot air & bright lights
I didn't watch that Fyre Festival documentary on Netflix for weeks, until my followers here and on twitter insisted I needed to watch because "Billy McFarland is just like Benioff. It seems so much like what happened to us".....and yeah, it does. The dream world of self-delusion and yes-men they live in. How did someone let this happen? Let Benioff & Weiss happen? Someone screwed up. HBO screwed up.
Am I the only one watching season 8 just to get some sort of idea how the books will turn out? I swear, I'd drop this show faster than The Walking Dead if there was even a release date for TWOW
You really deserve more subscribers and views holy hell. I just found you again after I rewatched your video on Stannis’s failed plot.
SEASON 5-7 HAS BEEN THE KIT HARRINGTON SHOW
@Johnny Skinwalker I think the show has become a paycheck for her that she will miss. Nothing wrong with that , she definitely did the most with the writing on season 7. Her lines to elaria sand when asking about myrcella were nothing short of amazing
Dragon Demands that is terrible. the quality of the show be damned.
@Johnny Skinwalker they've said as much
and Lena, they overpowered the Hell out of Cersei. D & D are in love with her
@The Dragon Demands i wonder what footage they gave. after these videos i rewatched season 1 . she was good. nut its kind of all downhill from there
he is A CON MAN. IS THERE ANY OTHER ANSWER
Screenwriting is difficult. How do you get all the exposition done without the dialogue sounding forced and unnatural?
But that they have still not learned by season 5 that script direction conveys nothing at all to the audience really is bizarre.
Our brother is a vile imp
The simple answer is that an idiot show runner can be seen as a genius, when the written works of a true genius is being brought to film. When there is no more written material for them to lean on, the vale is pulled away leaving only the idiot. D&D lack the imagination to conceive of half the literary works that George RR Martin put to paper.
Dude, I get what you're saying, but to call them "idiots" because they're not the best writers is overstating the case. They perfectly translated the books to high quality television when there was book material, which in of itself takes talent and allot of work. Not to mention they ran out of books by season 6, and season 6 was still a great season. It's only when it came down to ending it did it feel rushed and disjointed. The show is still a great show regardless, it just bounces in quality towards the end. D&D are great at what they know how to do, they aren't great writers, which is totally fine. They fucked up thinking they can write the ending of the show instead of getting a qualified experienced writer. But I get it, this is the internet and we all gotta rage and call people stupid idiots and now be civil or logical at all.
The show writers have gotten away with the biggest fluke of luck ever. The more I hear about them the more amateur and unskilled they sound. And somehow they've managed to spin the most successful show of all time and get all the credit for other people's work.
its not luck if thay had Georges books to steal from
Boston Towny4life watch the behind the show interviews to hear that they don’t understand fundamental aspects & themes of the characters or the books. They did have immensely talented ppl surrounding them. They don’t get credit for other ppls work. But they are idiots, esp Benioff. But both of them dropped the ball in the biggest way possible. Was it bad enough to undo s1-4 which were the best TV ever made? Not as long as u stop watching after s4.
Once I heard that these are the same idiots responsible for X-Men Origins: Wolverine, I lost all expectations of GOT having a great ending. But I still watched the train wreck hoping they’d prove me wrong
Dude, I get what you're saying, but to call them "idiots" because they're not great writers is absurd. They perfectly translated the books to high quality television when there was book material, which in of itself takes talent and allot of work. Not to mention they ran out of books by season 6, and season 6 was still a great season. It's only when it came down to ending it did it feel rushed and disjointed. The show is still a great show regardless, it just bounces in quality towards the end. D&D are great at what they know how to do, they aren't great writers, which is totally fine. They fucked up thinking they can write the ending of the show instead of getting a qualified experienced writer. But I get it, this is the internet and we all gotta rage and call people stupid idiots and not be civil or logical at all.
That's what daddy being a billionaire gets you.
I'm sorry but no just no on those stupid ass chains. They didnt need to be there why couldnt the scene have just been the night king walking to the edge of the water and raising is arms. Then have viserion fly up or even better dont show viserion until the wall fall scene to make it even more shocking. There boom two fixes that could have worked and I'm no writer either.
Dude, there was a time when Martin did not have previous experience or a screenwriting degree. You have to start somewhere; I don't think that's a good point. A lot of those writers ARE terrible, though, I totally give you that and it seems that there's a lot of nepotism behind the camaras.
Well, GRRM wasn't the son of the CEO of Goldman Sachs, so if he stuck around for 20 years doing something he had no standardized training on it was because he was good at it. If Benioff was the son of a no name wage slave, no one would've returned his calls, let alone let him get away with wasting 10 million dollars.
Yeah but they NEVER “learned”, never improved, in seven years