Are Wireless Gaming Mice ACTUALLY Faster??

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  • Published: 04 July 2019
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    We tested five wired and wireless mice with the Phantom Flex 4K camera at 1000 FPS to see if wireless mice were faster than wired!

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  • Calvin Vail
    Calvin Vail  4 hours back

    Linus and his retarded face in the thumbnail is the best

    • Jasper Beekman
      Jasper Beekman  8 hours back

      Wireless mice are too heavy for me and with mouse bungee I dont have any problems with cable anyway

      • deadleaves1985
        deadleaves1985  1 days back

        Not a very smart way to test mouse responsiveness cause you are also testing for how good valve programmers are at their job. I'm not sure how input loop is implemented in CS:GO, but if it's tied to render loop at 180hz and inputs are buffered until next frame, this gives us ~ 7,2 ms baseline latency and impact on measured numbers of at least half of it, so around 3,6 ms.

        So all your deviations for all mice except obviously slow cheap one are completely irrelevant. You are testing implementation of CS:GO input loop (it's like render loop, but for getting keyboard/mice inputs), if it's synced with render loop, if there is built-in buffer, how good or shitty every line of code handling those things is in this exact game.

        Proper way to test true mouse-to-app latency would be using programmable controller with input port and very lightweight app listening for said mouse input and timestamping it using high precision clock library. Even more proper way would be to use external hardware clock and feed that into computer with app and into high-speed camera to match each frame of recorded video with input recorded by test app, and don't forget to test for jitter (clock signals wouldn't arrive at camera and computer and same time, so there is some adjustment to be made).

        P.S. Also anyone with scientific background would lol hard at 5 test runs and liberal averaging of values, this is not how any of this is done.

        TL;DR - misleading and misinformed testing

        • pradeep bayalkoti
          pradeep bayalkoti  2 days back

          I'm using .99¢ mouse for past 1&half. Mouse is not that important comfortability should be fine

          • Fluffy Bunnyss
            Fluffy Bunnyss  4 days back

            Is it just me, or does this guy look like Tom Cruze?

            • DeafBlindMan
              DeafBlindMan  4 days back

              6:39 5ms variance vs 2ms variance. SAME PERFORMANCE :D

              • Kenan Resulbegovic
                Kenan Resulbegovic  6 days back

                C

                • UWotMete mette
                  UWotMete mette  6 days back

                  So glad I picked my G703, works so well with a hyperx series s mousepad.

                  • UWotMete mette
                    UWotMete mette  2 days back

                    Rob Allen it landed as well as Deadpool when he’s trying to be a hero

                  • Rob Allen
                    Rob Allen  4 days back

                    @UWotMete mette Sorry, I was trying to make a joke 😋.

                  • UWotMete mette
                    UWotMete mette  4 days back

                    Rob Allen no mouse pad= slower response times.

                  • Rob Allen
                    Rob Allen  4 days back

                    Cool! my mouse works with no mouse pad at all! Everyone should try one. :)

                • Tami Tetoua
                  Tami Tetoua  7 days back

                  Can we have a similar test for keyboards?

                  • WotLpPro
                    WotLpPro  1 weeks back

                    And what is with the monitor reaction time

                    • Oldbatwit
                      Oldbatwit  1 weeks back

                      That finalmouse is stupidly expensive. It costs more than my laptop.

                      • Shmoist
                        Shmoist  1 weeks back

                        This could've been a 10 second video.

                        • memo ,
                          memo ,  1 weeks back

                          You need to let the hammer from the same point in each test or it's not going to be very precise but nice video overall

                          • Randy ZB
                            Randy ZB  1 weeks back

                            what about the monitor latency

                            • Balyn 11
                              Balyn 11  2 weeks back

                              Any suggestions on what Logitech mouse to get anyone?

                            • Danish Wistara
                              Danish Wistara  2 weeks back

                              Nose wiggle

                              • Zygmunt Horodyski
                                Zygmunt Horodyski  2 weeks back

                                I have used wireless mouse for gaming (RAT M.) and it was pretty good, but not everything is good.

                                The first problem is battery, RAT M. was performing very well till the battery was over, imagine that your cursor sops in the middle of fire exchgange, it is a thing. RAT M. allows to quicklly change bateries, but having to chrge mouse to have it running...

                                Also second problem of wireless mouses are random changes in lattency, where your mouse acts like crzy for a second or so. There are few thing that might cause that, first might be Windows problem and the second might be variance in battery power output (when tha battery is low/very low). Either way it happend like once a week or two. It affected fire exchange only twice, so not a biug problem for casual player.

                                • Logi Science
                                  Logi Science  2 weeks back

                                  I like science:)
                                  But now I have to change out my work mouse for a gaming mouse because clicking the heads of the Excel spreadsheet cells with 20ms more lag is just more than I can handle. Thank you for opening my eyes!

                                  • Hassan 2k Whiteside
                                    Hassan 2k Whiteside  2 weeks back

                                    Have you considered the input lag of the screen being tested?

                                    • Kail Jonseu
                                      Kail Jonseu  2 weeks back

                                      They should have include a PS/2 mouse...

                                      • lanjo nosh
                                        lanjo nosh  2 weeks back

                                        What monitor was that

                                        • Randy
                                          Randy  2 weeks back

                                          Back in my day only pirates wore earrings.

                                        • SnackzFN
                                          SnackzFN  2 weeks back

                                          Doesn’t the weight of the mouse matter with the hammer test

                                          • Giga
                                            Giga  2 weeks back

                                            No, because they're measuring the exact moment the mouse moved, not how far it moved.

                                        • Sondre Solheim
                                          Sondre Solheim  2 weeks back

                                          Although you have 0 ping it does depend on the game u play

                                          • Breakcaft
                                            Breakcaft  2 weeks back

                                            I want more mouse tests

                                            • bob morales
                                              bob morales  3 weeks back

                                              Can you test the g502 wired and the g502 wireless you had the g502 right there in the extra scene

                                              • bob morales
                                                bob morales  2 weeks back

                                                Balyn 11 the g502 is great so many aspects of the mouse are customizable and it doesn’t feel that heavy with no weights

                                              • AbodyAbdalluh
                                                AbodyAbdalluh  2 weeks back

                                                @Balyn 11me too i use a small generic hp mouse

                                              • Balyn 11
                                                Balyn 11  2 weeks back

                                                bob morales how good is the g502 I’m not sure what mouse to get

                                            • Dade
                                              Dade  3 weeks back

                                              I loved the video, but I wish you would have shown a mouse with a PS/2 connection since they are supposed to be a little faster

                                              • Rob Allen
                                                Rob Allen  4 days back

                                                Very funny ;) . Balls were also faster since they didn't have to wait on photons to reflect off of the surface.

                                            • 劉政諺
                                              劉政諺  3 weeks back

                                              This is such a great test. It really gives an unbiased results for consumers. Rarely sub anything but definitely sub it after watching this!

                                              • tam letter
                                                tam letter  3 weeks back

                                                Polling rate matters because you can hit shots between frames in fast-paced shooters. Even on 240hz, especially when you drop frames...

                                                • ljj j
                                                  ljj j  3 weeks back

                                                  I could absolutely feel a difference in 500hz and 1000hz, 1000hz just feels a lot more sensitive. I could ironically notice the difference a lot more with my 60hz monitor than my 144hz monitor, so there's something you're not taking account for and I bet most gamers would agree they can feel the difference. I just got a g305 lightspeed after having a g403 and mx518 and couldn't notice a difference.

                                                  • lordelliott42
                                                    lordelliott42  3 weeks back

                                                    Why didn't you just measure when the USB port received a signal?

                                                    • Mr.Dr1v3
                                                      Mr.Dr1v3  3 weeks back

                                                      Raw mouse input on?

                                                      • Jeffrey Yang
                                                        Jeffrey Yang  3 weeks back

                                                        Now I just need a really fast wireless keyboard. Any recommendations¿

                                                        • Jeremy Bailey
                                                          Jeremy Bailey  3 weeks back

                                                          "This video is brought to you byyy"

                                                          Cinemasins Skip!

                                                          • TTV Chill0nIce
                                                            TTV Chill0nIce  3 weeks back

                                                            Wireless vs Wired only really has a difference when you get a cheaper mouse

                                                            • beastdude
                                                              beastdude  3 weeks back

                                                              And here's me still using a razer naga molten edition :P

                                                              • DeafBlindMan
                                                                DeafBlindMan  3 weeks back

                                                                Please test every mouse you have and make a database. And yes you don't need a 1000hz monitor to understand that, at 300fps, 500Hz doesn't have consistent mouse sampling per frame. That's the whole point of 1000Hz...

                                                                • bs09 _zg
                                                                  bs09 _zg  3 weeks back

                                                                  If ur a fucking gamer u dont use a wrls mouse

                                                                  • q_rps art
                                                                    q_rps art  3 weeks back

                                                                    I think you should put acoustic foam so The audio don’t sound so echoey

                                                                    • stevevparry
                                                                      stevevparry  3 weeks back

                                                                      isnt the weight of the mouse going to effect this.??

                                                                      • WeLikeSportz
                                                                        WeLikeSportz  3 weeks back

                                                                        It's night and day using the MX Anywhere 2 on my TV compared to using a G500s on VG248 monitor, so I assumed it was a wireless thing in general, but it's the non-gaming mouse plus the TV latency causing the difference. This video opened my eyes a bit, definitely will be looking into the G703. Batteries still a hassle, but better than dealing with the clutter of wires plus owning a 2nd mouse for when you're not close.

                                                                        • Yo Yo
                                                                          Yo Yo  3 weeks back

                                                                          How do you get more fps ?

                                                                          • Klock
                                                                            Klock  3 weeks back

                                                                            Of course it isn't... Unfortunately

                                                                            • pancholoco17
                                                                              pancholoco17  3 weeks back

                                                                              was vsync off? with vsync on it adds some latency btw

                                                                              • Ebani
                                                                                Ebani  4 days back

                                                                                @Rob Allen No it wouldn't, that's the thing

                                                                              • Rob Allen
                                                                                Rob Allen  4 days back

                                                                                but that latency would have the same effect for all of the tested mice, so it doesn't matter.

                                                                              • xxJing
                                                                                xxJing  3 weeks back

                                                                                pancholoco17 I can see some screen tearing so I’d assume it was off.

                                                                            • KillerGhost-YT
                                                                              KillerGhost-YT  3 weeks back

                                                                              He’s a genius *puts dent in back of mouse*

                                                                              • Zack Merritt
                                                                                Zack Merritt  3 weeks back

                                                                                why’d that coffee look disgusting?😂

                                                                                • Andreas St-Onge
                                                                                  Andreas St-Onge  3 weeks back

                                                                                  I have a really good question for you linus! (please like this comment so it gets noticed) Could you please do the same test with PS/2 type connector mouse ?! As the signal is being sent by the mouse to the cpu instead of being the cpu looking for a signal! Im burning to see the result!

                                                                                  • killer bro
                                                                                    killer bro  3 weeks back

                                                                                    Nicely done!