Doctor's Reaction to: "Nurses Play Cards" | Wednesday Checkup

  • Published: 25 April 2019
  • A lot of angry posts and article have been shared on this topic and I wanted to chime in to give some context. Some of the outrage is warranted and some of it is not. Please jump in and let me know your thoughts!

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Comments • 3 341

  • Dragonkazzof
    Dragonkazzof  2 days back

    Thank you for the context and explanation on this issue. It helps your foreign viewers like me. Hello from France BTW. And I love your videos.

    • Samantha Dirckx
      Samantha Dirckx  3 days back

      I'm an RNA I don't know how many times I've been on break and I hear that page come over my radio. I've dropped whatever I'm doing to get to my resident. Nurses and RNA along with everyone else who works in the medical field do not get the recognition they deserve.

      • horsemaiden29
        horsemaiden29  2 weeks back

        Shure nurse don't get credit but what about Health Care Aids. We are the ones giving the real day to day care.

        • Don't Worry be Happy
          Don't Worry be Happy  2 weeks back

          Could you do a Doctor reacts to 13 reasons why please 💚

          • Mary Petrie
            Mary Petrie  2 weeks back

            Context is key, first lesson in English literature, first lesson in theology, first lesson in humanity breaches of acadamia. You can build any argument if take something out of context, but will be a straw man argument, which will burn when the next person comes along. I thank you for taking breath and checking out the context .

            • ObsessiveCompulsiveClown

              I don't think that she meant badly, but I heard someone tell my boss (who is a retired nurse) that nurses play cards all day right after this quote was publicised. People mimic what they hear in the news, and it can be saddening to hear. My boss's response was to take the comment with some humor, and bring her nurse buddies that still worked at the hospital some mini decks of cards along with a care package. Nurses are amazing.

              • KatieLiz
                KatieLiz  3 weeks back

                Um, I work in a critical access hospital. Less patients just means they staff less nurses. The work load doesn't change.

                • Joy Lisa wall
                  Joy Lisa wall  4 weeks back

                  Yes please the comparison in 8hrs vs 12hr shifts for nurses and could you also clarify the if it relates to different types of nursing like operating room, recovery room, floor nursing . Hope that this is not confusing. I was just thinking different specialties and settings may also factor into the pros and cons of an 8hr shift vs 12hr shift. Thank you as always Dr Mike!

                  • Bob Crull
                    Bob Crull  4 weeks back

                    Regarding the importance of context - amen to your point on that one. Too bad the manipulative mass market media in this country deliberately ignores it when quoting people.

                    • butterfly123
                      butterfly123  4 weeks back

                      Respect to nurses, I wouldn’t be here without them

                      • Alen Riya Jose
                        Alen Riya Jose  1 months back

                        I like how you analyse things

                        • Ruthof Moab
                          Ruthof Moab  1 months back

                          Oh my word Doc! I am a nurse and you just won me over 🤗🤣 I have alot of Docs. Talk down on me.

                          • Ronnie Rey
                            Ronnie Rey  1 months back

                            I'm glad she said she was sorry and did all that even if it wasn't exactly what she meant. I never heard an update till now.

                            • Peggy Korns
                              Peggy Korns  1 months back

                              You amaze me. Thank you for such an incredible answer. I truly think you could bring peace to this weary earth!! Thank you!

                              • Shayla Lawson
                                Shayla Lawson  1 months back

                                My mother was a nurse, she worked within people who worked in critical access based hospitals, and she did herself for awhile. Even a town population of a few hundred (which many of these aren't that low) are prone to constant health issues, she and her colleagues were often skimped out of overtime pay, rarely had their full breaks if any at all, etc. The senator's statements were of a specific subset of nurses, that does not, however, excuse her misconception on that subset.

                                • Joanne Mercader
                                  Joanne Mercader  1 months back

                                  WWWII Veteran!
                                  Nursing home in Georgia. Amazing not a word about his death. Why? Please address this vicious murder by "NURSES"

                                  • Joanne Mercader
                                    Joanne Mercader  1 months back

                                    CNA? In the late 70s we were trained to put in catheters. It's what we were expected to do at the nursing home I worked at. At that time and in that place the nurses were horrible to the patients. Seriously like the movie ONE FLEW OVER THE CUCKOOS NEST. It's been closed for over 40 years but I always recall how savage and brutal those nurses were because there was nobody watching. There's a video of a group of nurses at a nursing home caught on hidden camera by the family of an elderly man dying. That's the best representation of the nurses I worked with. If you can find it you will see the most evil wicked women that are paid and when caught still get to continue in this field

                                    • Joanne Mercader
                                      Joanne Mercader  1 months back

                                      Thank you so much for telling the truth about this "FAKE NEWS" story. When I watched it I knew the MAIN STREAM MEDIA was telling a flat out lie. Exactly like they did with the CATHOLIC SCHOOL student, specifically to cause division.

                                      • Jenelyn Arniño
                                        Jenelyn Arniño  1 months back

                                        Hello Dr. Mike!!! I really love how you always put new knowledge on my brain, that said thank you very much. By the way Doc did you watched the vid about a woman who is said to be pregnant for 3 years and 7months, is that even possible??? I didn't watched it yet, just saw the caption. Eitheir it is true or not, I am very curious if it possible?

                                        • Jared Harward
                                          Jared Harward  1 months back

                                          I am curious about the pros and cons of 8 and 12 hour shifts. In my former career in law enforcement, I saw 8, 10, and 12 hour shifts - as the norm - overtime sometimes put us closer to 14-16 hours - and my wife had to work as many as 18 hour shifts, not infrequently (as a dispatcher), so I've got opinions on the topic. Still, while I imagine there is a lot of cross-over in the pros and cons between LE and medical shift lengths, I'm curious about your point of view.
                                          Personally, I prefer 4/10's. My least favorite was 12 hour shifts - day shift for 2 weeks, night for 2 - nobody got left out, everybody (including the brass) had to pull both.... and nobody was ever rested or adjusted to their schedule. Whomever dreamed that one up was a total dingbat.

                                          • Covle
                                            Covle  2 months back

                                            You and your rationality... How am I supposed to be outraged at anything?!

                                            • atreestump Mahogany
                                              atreestump Mahogany  2 months back

                                              Did Dr. Mike buy that shirt before he started working out or after? Lol

                                              • lfutrell82
                                                lfutrell82  2 months back

                                                I've been hospitalized twice this year and I knew all of the nurses, nurses assistants, and the care partners by name before I left. They checked on me multiple times a day and night. I'm certain they do the same for all other patients. They work just as hard if not harder than Drs.

                                                • Ceara Mhic Cuarta
                                                  Ceara Mhic Cuarta  2 months back

                                                  Dr. Mike, I am a retired RN and worked in a CAH. We were ALWAYS full because many of the people in our little hospital had multiple health concerns that were poorly managed. People who need CAH also need a TON of patient teaching, frequently are readmitted for diabetic issues or managing COPD (among other chronic conditions), and often rarely go to the doctor. Add this to an aging population, and depending on where you are located in the US, CAH can be very busy. We were minimally staffed to meet nurse: patient ratios. Many of the nurses were new graduates looking to get in their first year of med-surg (recommended by most nursing programs) before going on to bigger and better positions elsewhere.

                                                  I NEVER got the two 15 min or one 30 meal break away from the unit that is recommended. I often ate in the break room while charting (there was no time to do it otherwise, and we still used paper charting--we did not have the funds to computerize nursing documentation) and frequently had to get up to answer the call bell. We didn't have a full-time secretary in our unit. Nurses functioned as secretary (run up the hall from a room to answer a phone--it might be a doctor, run up the hall to answer call lights--patients could not be kept waiting, etc). We put our own charts together. We functioned as housekeeping for minor things and spills (housekeeping came in once per day). We emptied trash and linen. We did our own blood gasses and drew our own labs. In very small hospitals like ours, there is little ancillary help, and most of it is dedicated to the ED.

                                                  I found the remarks incredibly demeaning. I have worked for YEARS in all sorts of hospitals--extremely large and very small, and have worked from bedside as a CNA to being Nursing Supervisor and Nurse Manager and a sometimes consultant. I had less time to sit down at a CAH than at any other place I have ever worked. Though I agree that some CAHs may be very slow, many are NOT.

                                                  Any public figure making bold statements about a Profession (because nurses are professionals, make no mistake about that) should:
                                                  1. Be well informed and not base statements on what they think, or on their own personal, small area of the "world" (in this case the state of Washington).
                                                  2. Be careful that their speech is not inflammatory or derogatory to a group of people as a whole (she singled out the nursing profession).
                                                  3. Have facts and figures to back up their statements, even if those statements only reflect their own area of expertise (ie. nurses in CAH in Washington and how busy they generally are).

                                                  Moral of the story? SHE WAS WRONG. While I applaud her for trying to do the right thing afterward, it took hundreds of thousands of emails (to the point where the servers crashed), so many letters and postcards (to the point where the post office flatly refused to deliver them), and a huge petition to generate an apology. It led to a Facebook group being generated, outrage on so many levels, and a backlash no one was prepared for. The reason she is going to shadow a nurse--the nurses demanded it. Let's see if the hospital she goes to will actually put her shadowing a bedside nurse or at the side of Administration. I would be surprised if she actually does it--legalities being the number one factor. I certainly wouldn't want her at MY bedside.

                                                  • Alika Kianga
                                                    Alika Kianga  2 months back

                                                    I feel like a point needs to be made here. There's a VERY good reason for comparing high traffic hospitals to low traffic hospitals, when considering this bill. Unlike normal jobs, human lives rely on nurses and doctors. Large scale hospitals in urban areas are equipped to handle all kinds of incidences, but critical access hospitals aren't necessarily that well-prepared. If something were to happen in a nearby rural town, like a large-scale outbreak of a disease, or a bus of people crashing nearby, those hospitals would face some serious issues with staffing. Lets take the bus example. What are you going to do when you have patients coming into the ER with broken legs, glass in their eyes, profuse bleeding, and heart attacks or panic attacks? Imagine the amount of staff it takes to handle this emergency - imagine the number of surgeries. There aren't a lot of people living need critical access hospitals, so of course, there isn't a lot of staff - there's less people to hire, for one thing. What happens when all of the sudden, all of the nurses who clocked in at 7am are now required by law to leave? Or take breaks? The primary concern of hospitals in a moment like this is to crank into hero mode and try to minimize as much of the damage as humanly possible, while saving lives, and prioritizing cases for the best outcomes. They don't need some up the ladder government official telling them that they can't have the freedom to make critical staffing decisions.

                                                    Maybe a better way of addressing this situation is for the state to review the hours clocked by healthcare professionals. When one hospital is consistently overtaxing their medical staff, an investigation should be made to determine whether or not employees are being abused. I think that's fairly simple.

                                                    I don't think the federal government should be involved in deciding when people take breaks. It's the federal government's job to provide universal, standardized infrastructure and make sure that state governments are successful at managing their states. It's the job of your state government to oversee your local government and investigate issues where local governments are failing to address the needs of the people. There's a reason our system works like this - it's how any successful organization works. It provides the flexibility necessary for everyone to optimize their process for maximum efficiency. If anything should be done to improve the system, it's that we should make it easier to access higher levels of government to report abuse, and we should put more pressure on higher orders of government to study and statistically analyze the performance of lower levels of government, so as to make regular inquiries, and request changes.

                                                    • Jason Voorhees
                                                      Jason Voorhees  2 months back

                                                      Sometimes I wanna say "Shirt tight enough, Doc?" Then I realize...If I was built like that, I'd NEVER wear a shirt. Just a stethoscope and a tie LOL!

                                                      • Matt Pap
                                                        Matt Pap  2 months back

                                                        1:57 Dr Mike calls rural community "limited and small". Context matters.

                                                        • Jeanne Jacobs
                                                          Jeanne Jacobs  2 months back

                                                          I want to see 8.5 hr vs 12.5 hr shifts

                                                          • Mickey Kindley
                                                            Mickey Kindley  2 months back

                                                            I barely had time to pee . Play cards ? Drop dead .... bitch

                                                            • not olaf
                                                              not olaf  2 months back

                                                              It was a big epiphany for me when I realized that a nurse is way more than just a junior doctor. There are some things that nurses are good at and knowledgeable about that a doctor might not be. It's a whole different profession and just as worthy of respect.

                                                     father's life was saved by one of those critical access hospitals when he was traveling alone and had a heart "episode." If I remember correctly, he was about the only patient they had for the few days he was there, but I will always be grateful for that tiny facility.

                                                              • Amanda Baule
                                                                Amanda Baule  2 months back

                                                                I just discovered you in the last few days because of a video you made over a year ago. This popped in my feed today… a few months too late for the topic to be relevant… but the point still resonates strongly.

                                                                I wonder if you could do more of this. Pulling quotes from the media that were cherry picked with the possible intention to inflame and exploring deeper.

                                                                I think teaching people in today’s sound bite and social media driven era to think for themselves, to question, and to ask about context could go A LONG WAY to reducing people’s stress.

                                                                This video made me want to hug you. Your clarity, reason, and compassion resonate. There need to be more people like you in this world… and those that do think this way really do need to find their voice and amplify your message of context, clarity, and questioning. It’s a good skill set to have in the classroom, in the doctor’s office, and in the world. We don’t ask for context or clarity enough in this world.

                                                                • Caoimhe Murray
                                                                  Caoimhe Murray  2 months back

                                                                  Mike: you need to calm down
                                                                  Me in my tik tok mind: you need to calm down you're being too loud

                                                                  • the undead1
                                                                    the undead1  2 months back

                                                                    When i donated my kidney to my wife i saw they did get breaks. But they are understaffed as a whole. The hospital we stayed in was at the time anyway that nurses were staffed well. They yelled at me for getting my own ice water lok. Of course i just gave kidney and being a cna i felt id be helping them out lol. They told stop being a tough guy and rest .

                                                                    • Richi Jaufmann
                                                                      Richi Jaufmann  2 months back

                                                                      I had an internship in a german Hospital and there are breaks (officially) but if someone (eg. a patient needs help, your half hour of break gets "stolen". This was my experience in a geriatric station. Wich is as far as i understood the most relaxed station after the pedeatric station.

                                                                      • Miranda
                                                                        Miranda  2 months back

                                                                        Question for any healthcare professionals here, which might be stupid: Who REALLY works more hours on most days at hospitals? Who does more each day? Doctors, or nurses? I’m interested to know also, why doctors take so long sometimes in both offices with booked appointments and hospital emergency rooms? Thanks!

                                                                        • Brice Cameron
                                                                          Brice Cameron  2 months back

                                                                          Thank you for explaining the context. However, I still think her statement was poorly worded and a bit offensive. For example, stating that "critical care hospitals don't need as much staff because they serve a smaller population" (if that's what she was trying to argue?) would have been better than "nurses probably play cards half the day". Also, she should have visited a few critical care hospitals, talked to the nurses and staff, and observed how busy they are firsthand before making these assumptions. Lawmakers need to start doing their homework!

                                                                          • UmmNoOne
                                                                            UmmNoOne  2 months back

                                                                            Wait, now I'm just confused. Did she not say that nurses deserve breaks(but prob not critical access hospitals)?

                                                                            • UmmNoOne
                                                                              UmmNoOne  2 months back

                                                                              The comments are getting me confused lmao

                                                                          • Katherine Doornink
                                                                            Katherine Doornink  2 months back

                                                                            Blah blah blah. Sorry, the Senator was totally out of line.

                                                                            • Michael Clayton
                                                                              Michael Clayton  2 months back

                                                                              First of all, I'm a new subscriber and love your channel! Should I be embarrassed to say I may have binge watched for the last two hours? I may have a problem...

                                                                              Thank you for speaking to the importance of context. It is too often lost on many people who rely only on a media sound bite to make a judgment, which is often misleading on its face and has the potential to ruin someone's life or career.

                                                                              • Sary Farrell
                                                                                Sary Farrell  2 months back

                                                                                Oh what a shocker she is a republican.

                                                                                • Dean Kirk
                                                                                  Dean Kirk  2 months back

                                                                                  My mum is a nurse so I know how hard that work and how impotent that are and that most of the time don't have time to eat

                                                                                  • Dean Kirk
                                                                                    Dean Kirk  2 months back

                                                                                    With in 5 years my moms hospital cut the amount of nurses form 30 to 15 its a kinda small but that is a big change

                                                                                • daniel valdez
                                                                                  daniel valdez  2 months back

                                                                                  No chest compressions?

                                                                                  • S&Tguy
                                                                                    S&Tguy  2 months back

                                                                                    I have to disagree with You on something Please do not lop all patience the same. I have to go to meny Dr's and I have to see many different Nurses. I have more respect for Nurses and Doctors then You will ever know and. I make a note ever time to tell them that evertime I see them. In facted I give everyone respect that I see that keeps this country running. I also make a note to tell this to them every single time I see them. So please take some of Your own advice and think before You speak. Or as You say look at the Context.

                                                                                    • Gavin Yeatts
                                                                                      Gavin Yeatts  2 months back

                                                                                      Great video Dr. Mike

                                                                                      • justabitofamug
                                                                                        justabitofamug  3 months back

                                                                                        Wow this was a good life lesson

                                                                                        • Rachel Ng
                                                                                          Rachel Ng  3 months back

                                                                                          My friend's mom is a nurse in training

                                                                                          • Roz
                                                                                            Roz  3 months back

                                                                                            Nurses are the heroes of the hospital and I tell them every time I get the chance.

                                                                                            • Sarah Darwiche
                                                                                              Sarah Darwiche  3 months back

                                                                                              As a nurse this melted my heart ❤️ thanks Dr Mike, the good thing about our professions is that we work together and always stick up for one another