Film Theory: The Joker Is Not Real (Joker 2019 Spoiler Free)

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  • Published: 08 September 2019
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    This year we are getting a seemingly brand new take on the classic Batman villain, the Joker. This version stars Joaquin Phoenix as a failed comedian named Arthur Fleck - a new name for the old character. People are saying it's a whole new origin story for the Joker and I think that's true... but maybe not in the way most people are thinking. I think this Joker is not actually REAL! What do I mean? You're about to find out!

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    Credits:
    Writer: Matthew Patrick and Zach Stewart
    Editors: Dan "Cybert" Seibert, BanditRants, and Alex "Sedge" Sedgwick
    Assistant Editor: AlyssaBeCrazy
    Sound Editor: Yosi Berman

    Sources:
    nme.com/news/film/joker-director-says-viewers-will-mad-new-film-strays-completely-comic-book-2525698
    nme.com/news/film/marc-maron-tells-us-working-joaquin-phoenixs-upcoming-joker-origin-movie-2466904
    schizophrenia.com/earlysigns.htm#
    sciencealert.com/schizophrenia-is-80-genetic-according-to-this-massive-study-on-twins
    sci-hub.tw/onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/1556-4029.12858
    indiewire.com/2019/04/robert-de-niro-joker-king-of-comedy-1202055636/
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Comments • 9 640

  • Jordan Matthews
    Jordan Matthews  4 minutes back

    Now let's watch poor MatPat be wrong again.

    • Just Nierninwa
      Just Nierninwa  4 minutes back

      Fun fact, a typical symptom of schizophrenia is often delusions of grandeur. This fits perfectly with what we're seeing!

      • Mr ChiefLoud
        Mr ChiefLoud  4 hours back

        Alex Jones has better take on this movie. Banned.video

        • AXEKILLER _311
          AXEKILLER _311  4 hours back

          So basically joker is supposed to be a more interesting reboot of the king of comedy

          • Kim mie
            Kim mie  4 hours back

            Since you pointed out that his mom looks young, I started to wonder..... is his mom a hallucination too? Or a hostage? (Sorry, I know the hostage thing is a stretch 😆)... but when he’s dancing with her in the trailer... it kindaaaa gave me a Norman Bates vibe... dancing with her corpse or something....

            • Rick J-420
              Rick J-420  4 hours back

              Joker has always been shown to be an unreliable narrator, even to himself about who he is and why he is. So I would actually be pretty happy if they went this direction with this.

              A personal prediction, I have a feeling that Arthur has that disease where he has forced laughter like the videos Phoenix watched to practice his laugh. There's probably going to be some tic that shows that his laughter is involuntary but at the end of the movie, once everything comes crashing down he's going to let out an epic laugh but this time, no tic. Showing that now he "gets the joke" and he's actually laughing himself. A slow zoom in on his manically joyful faces as all hell breaks loose around him then BOOM credits. JOKER. Directed by Todd Phillips.

              • Maxwasagooddog Is back
                Maxwasagooddog Is back  4 hours back

                I got an ad for Joker on this vid lol

                • NeoAce 7
                  NeoAce 7  6 hours back

                  His feet are moving in strange patterns? So dancing is strange ? Moves his feet into a dance position or some sort. How is this strange ? Idk it just seem strange to put this as a reason

                  • Dustin Kunish
                    Dustin Kunish  6 hours back

                    The way fantasy and reality mold leaving you confused is the same way schizophrenia actual works you fade in and out of reality confused on not really knowing what’s going on

                    • fluffshi
                      fluffshi  7 hours back

                      I once started laughing at stairs

                      • Molon Gangsta
                        Molon Gangsta  7 hours back

                        I literally write like that and I’m 14 I- (disclaimer not the people don’t blah blah blah I’m talking about the upper half

                        • tara lovesspicynoodles
                          tara lovesspicynoodles  7 hours back

                          I got the trailer for the joker as an add on this 🤔

                          • tara lovesspicynoodles
                            tara lovesspicynoodles  7 hours back

                            Just yes

                            • BlackRonin
                              BlackRonin  7 hours back

                              Maybe there will be a five year time jump during which he becomes more of the mastermind we know. It's worked before.

                              • KittyCon
                                KittyCon  8 hours back

                                If it’s not real that means his is gonna drive himself mad, This is probably character build up.

                                • Bostumo
                                  Bostumo  8 hours back

                                  That laugh caught me off guard lol!

                                  • Romina Constenla
                                    Romina Constenla  8 hours back

                                    Imagine the vast of Suicide Squat having to stand someone sending them used condoms and death rats just to have him do the worst rendition of the joker.

                                    • E
                                      E  8 hours back

                                      Wow, somebody did more than just their homework.

                                      • Kieran Cheale
                                        Kieran Cheale  9 hours back

                                        The beef bit killed me 😂

                                        • toriel
                                          toriel  9 hours back

                                          can i just say so..
                                          lets say somebody beats you up and you start crying but then your body just forces you to smile and laugh
                                          is that close to this jokers mental illness?

                                          • Neil Mukhopadhyay
                                            Neil Mukhopadhyay  10 hours back

                                            I just have a problem....how are you assuming that joker has schizophrenia. ...that term is what psychologists use when they cant tell whats wrong with you...thats not really an illness...in fact joker has even made claims to some sort of super consciousness ( if we are indeed talking about the same joker here)...

                                            • Mr. Black
                                              Mr. Black  11 hours back

                                              Yeah um...how do i say this... you're fucking wrong. Ive seen it and trust me... you're very very wrong

                                              • Luis Gonzalez
                                                Luis Gonzalez  11 hours back

                                                Oh no I’m sorry 😞 I know you said no spoilers but I can bear to watch it yet. I’ll have to come back after I see the movie

                                                • Saad Mansoor
                                                  Saad Mansoor  11 hours back

                                                  joke is on you

                                                  • gavin Driscoll
                                                    gavin Driscoll  12 hours back

                                                    It’s pretty clear he is not the real joker. We don’t know the real jokers name or backstory. He probably doesn’t have one so this can’t be the joker.

                                                    • Omega Scrap Baby Chan
                                                      Omega Scrap Baby Chan  13 hours back

                                                      I feel sad for JOKER in the theater.

                                                      • ChoralAlchemist
                                                        ChoralAlchemist  13 hours back

                                                        VERY COOL! Super interesting. My husband was looking forward to this movie so much and now we’ll have even more to think about when we watch it. Also, thanks for the jump scare at 15:00, got me good. ;)

                                                        • Scott Alex Brandon Parasram

                                                          Joker !!
                                                          A mental mad man - nope.
                                                          A mental mad man doesnt know martial arts, business, create a laugh gas that turns u into zombie like him, joke bombs, knows not to get shoot and set up traps.
                                                          Lol Joker is a Batman without restraint. Simple- he is The Joker!

                                                          • BumbadawgTV
                                                            BumbadawgTV  14 hours back

                                                            If it was a genetic remake of the, "King of Comedy" I think--despite the fusion of Gotham and an update--it would be disappointing. I think it is more likely that he has multiple personalities..forged from abuse and other tramas. That their is a jekyll/hyde sort of thing at work. But--dunno. Looking forward to the film.

                                                            • Rudolfo Phillips
                                                              Rudolfo Phillips  15 hours back

                                                              If this turns out tto be true they had better save their own asses by having him wake up to a blinding light then a doctor leaning over him yelling "Jack! It's ok Jack we're here you had an accident in your room" or something like that haha

                                                              • James Burns
                                                                James Burns  16 hours back

                                                                Making a film theory on a move that ain’t out

                                                                • Random Idea dude
                                                                  Random Idea dude  17 hours back

                                                                  It sounds like joker. Everyone who’s a good friend knows he’s a guy who lies about his life using movies

                                                                  • Carlo James Millano
                                                                    Carlo James Millano  18 hours back

                                                                    well I don't have schizophrenia but my writing sucks

                                                                    • Preston Leven
                                                                      Preston Leven  18 hours back

                                                                      The killing joke: a semi telling of the Jokers .origin where he is a Comedian named ARTHUR!
                                                                      Don’t say this is the first time this has been his name when that graphic novel came out 30 years ago.

                                                                      Just saying.

                                                                      • Azul Alas Arjona
                                                                        Azul Alas Arjona  19 hours back

                                                                        if ever this is true... thank you for the spoilers...

                                                                        • Luis Martinez
                                                                          Luis Martinez  19 hours back

                                                                          That was a complete spoiler.. With the comment at the end you just desperately spoiled the movie... Mattpat you are so desperate...dislike and unsubscribe. You spolied my most awaited movie with a dick move

                                                                          • Myles Morris-Tomlinson
                                                                            Myles Morris-Tomlinson  19 hours back

                                                                            Joker creepy

                                                                            • Lewis Pastars
                                                                              Lewis Pastars  20 hours back

                                                                              I have a bad feeling that this is more progressive Hollywood social commentary with a focus on the ‘mental health community’. I just don’t see how they can spin a violent psychotic murderer as positive.

                                                                              • Michael Hayden
                                                                                Michael Hayden  20 hours back

                                                                                We live in a society, the movie

                                                                                • PartyGawd
                                                                                  PartyGawd  22 hours back

                                                                                  I can't wait to see the next theory on this new joker movie

                                                                                  • Move Advisor
                                                                                    Move Advisor  23 hours back

                                                                                    I saw the movie and your wrong on all accounts! The movie is so deeper then what you think it will be. Easily the best movie I’ve ever seen.

                                                                                    • Kasey Combs
                                                                                      Kasey Combs  24 hours back

                                                                                      15:00 it’s midnight, MatPat. You didn’t have to make me through my phone

                                                                                      • Waluigi Is the best
                                                                                        Waluigi Is the best  24 hours back

                                                                                        Gamers rise up

                                                                                        • RageFire
                                                                                          RageFire  24 hours back

                                                                                          does the movie got that pencil magic trick though?

                                                                                          • Emperor Orthopox
                                                                                            Emperor Orthopox  24 hours back

                                                                                            He was called Arthur White in some of the earlier comics

                                                                                            • GiantsJack
                                                                                              GiantsJack  24 hours back

                                                                                              great vid, hope u were right

                                                                                              • GiantsJack
                                                                                                GiantsJack  1 days back

                                                                                                jesus, i'm a schizo. i'm the joker. thanks!

                                                                                                • Jacob Weaver
                                                                                                  Jacob Weaver  1 days back

                                                                                                  I am IN LOVE with the shot of Joker preparing to walk on stage and the curtain is in front of him