The Economics That Made Boeing Build the 737 Max

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  • Published: 30 April 2019
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    References:
    [1] nytimes.com/2019/04/08/business/boeing-737-max-.html
    [2] en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_jet_airliners
    [3] flightglobal.com/news/articles/boeing-boss-green-lights-all-new-next-generation-nar-353056/
    [4] web.mit.edu/airlinedata/2017%2012%20Month%20Documents/Aircraft%20and%20Related/Small%20Narrow/Average%20Daily%20Airborne%20Hours%20of%20Total%20Small%20Narrowbody%20Fleet.htm; web.mit.edu/airlinedata/2017%2012%20Month%20Documents/Aircraft%20and%20Related/Widebody/Average%20Daily%20Airborne%20Hours%20of%20Total%20Widebody%20Fleet.htm
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    [6] boeing.com/company/about-bca/washington/737-rate-increase-07-28-17.page
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    [10] nytimes.com/2011/07/21/business/global/american-places-record-order-with-2-jet-makers.html
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    [12] nytimes.com/2011/07/21/business/global/american-places-record-order-with-2-jet-makers.html
    [13] panamacademy.com/boeing-737-ng-type-rating-and-training-courses
    [14] nytimes.com/2019/04/08/business/boeing-737-max-.html
    [15] boeing.com/commercial/737max/#/technical-specs; b737.org.uk/737max.htm
    [16] aircanada.mediaroom.com/2019-03-19-Air-Canada-Updates-Schedule-Following-the-Grounding-of-the-Boeing-737-MAX-Aircraft
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Comments • 3 754

  • Wendover Productions
    Wendover Productions   5 months back

    Hey all, 
    I hope you find this video interesting. It is meant to provide an overview of what led to Boeing creating the 737 MAX rather than giving a comprehensive overview of the factors leading to the two crashes and the issues with MCAS so the explanation on that is quick. If you want to learn more about that, I would suggest starting with this article: https://theaircurrent.com/aviation-safety/vestigal-design-issue-clouds-737-max-crash-investigations/

    Also, for the first time ever, we're taking topic suggestions for future Wendover videos. If we end up using your topic, we'll send you a free Wendover t-shirt in gratitude. Submit your ideas here: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdMAoo9CfGxr5OvZdz3qCCEkeQSVJpak3YYTHQFLRwXOyTOXA/viewform?usp=sf_link

    • Wonder Zwane
      Wonder Zwane  2 days back

      No wonder it's still grounded!

    • Pablo Gonzalez
      Pablo Gonzalez  3 weeks back

      @Hualani - MCAS isn't part of the autopilot it's a form of stability augmentation which is prevalent in modern airliners more accurately it prevents the control column force required to pitch up from progressively decreasing in certain AOA regions preventing pilots from easily inducing a stall themselves.

      While the MAX is often labeled as "aerodynamically unstable" it isn't and the 777 which employs Relaxed Static Stability technically IS unstable but that doesn't mean it's dangerous as is proven by its safety record

    • Hualani
      Hualani  3 weeks back

      Good video, good job albeit I suspect more is at play besides MCAS alone in AOA autopilot integration systems. A330 incidents have largely remained unpublicized within US media sources, yet presenting similar if not yet fatal cockpit emergencies for more than a decade. Its an investigation waiting for broadcast from those unafraid of consequences, Id like to see ALPA take a more proactive standing. Unlikely. It seems in twenty-first century loss of life is sole instigation for thorough exposé.

    • Pablo Gonzalez
      Pablo Gonzalez  4 weeks back

      @Ali Baba - There's a lot of misconception in that statement nearly every new fighter jet is sidestick and they're all FBW including the F-22 which Boeing helped manufacture

    • Pablo Gonzalez
      Pablo Gonzalez  1 months back

      @Da Hawk You just stated that the pilots made fatal mistakes but, still blame the manufacturer. The flight before the Lion Air Crash had the same issue and the 2 experienced pilots weren't able to find a solution until an off duty pilot came into the cockpit and told them about the solution. In which they flew the plane manually and safely landed. The airlines did an inspection. In which it didn't find nothing. So it proceeded with its flight schedule. Lion Air Airlines could have contacted the manufacturer (Boeing), let them know about the incident which luckily an off duty pilot was able to assist, but, they sought profit and saw the loss of not using this plane for it's intended flight schedule. So actually who is to blame... the airline for when an incident occurred, had it inspected which came up with nothing wrong and had the choice to reschedule all flights on that particular plane and have the manufacturer inspect the plane for the incident that occurred, the pilots who are there to solve a problem in a timely manner if, automation goes bad, or a company that followed the process to get their planes certified. August 30, 2011 was when the 737 was publicly announced. The 737 MAX series gained FAA certification on March 8, 2017.

  • VooDooTrois
    VooDooTrois  1 hours back

    ... not a QUITE custom domain name?

    • infinitecanadian
      infinitecanadian  9 hours back

      I rode on a 737 MAX 8 just this year.

      • Danny Barcenas
        Danny Barcenas  8 hours back

        Those Pilots must be Aces I believe its just sufficient Training required to fly this plane safely

    • Axel Palm90
      Axel Palm90  10 hours back

      Yoke: AM I A JOKE TO YOU?

      • Jacob Cudlitz
        Jacob Cudlitz  14 hours back

        If they could make engines have less drag but stay big and have a high bipass ratio

        • Bobby Fhet
          Bobby Fhet  17 hours back

          YABADABADOOOOO!! Fred Flinstones plane with a crash light at extra cost...

          • Philo Sopher
            Philo Sopher  1 days back

            Like getting a tiny bag of pretzels, sitting in hard little seats all squished together and paying baggage fees wasn't enough for them. These 737 planes aren't fun to fly in. It would be pure agony to do an 8 hour flight.

            • Caleb Austin
              Caleb Austin  1 days back

              i think Boeing should’ve at least raised the landing gear so that they could have enough space under the engine...

            • martin joseph
              martin joseph  2 days back

              the empire is crumbling.

              • Sharp Pig
                Sharp Pig  2 days back

                1,696,969th viewer!

                • prokousholi
                  prokousholi  3 days back

                  Boils down to shareholders...

                  • Mom's Spaghetti
                    Mom's Spaghetti  4 days back

                    Should have revamped the 757 instead

                    • Altaf As
                      Altaf As  5 days back

                      Boeing 737 MAX
                      became
                      Boeing 737 MAD

                      • Aramis Karis
                        Aramis Karis  1 weeks back

                        W airbus 👍

                        • KingMattVidz
                          KingMattVidz  1 weeks back

                          You should make how airlines predict arrival times

                          • alan6832
                            alan6832  1 weeks back

                            They made the computer too powerful, and Airbus is even worse. Boeing combined a powerful computer with a shoddy sensor, without enough testing, which is inexcusable. Once the executives responsible are in jail though, the problem has already been fixed and the 737max should fly again, But ONLY as long as the executives are in jail, and it must be grounded whenever they are free.
                            All the plane needs is limits on the computer trim control, a backup sensor, and an executive prison, and it had the first 2 months ago.
                            They also need a stretch version that trades some range for increased capacity, since carrying 4000 miles of fuel is not fuel efficient, so planes should refuel within 2000 miles whenever possible. This also allows passengers to stretch their legs, thereby reducing legroom requirements, which again increases efficiency.

                            • Leo Rambo
                              Leo Rambo  2 weeks back

                              Your videos are really cool, but this one is kind of misleading. The 737 MAX has Hydraulic flight control actuators, and cables as redundant direct-controls, It also has a dedicated warning panel instead of a 'single warning light'. Moreover, commercial aircrafts don't have a 'one click start', all have a multistep procedure of some form. You should do more research before making a video, otherwise you are only spreading misinformation to your millions of subscribers.

                              • Robin Jenssen
                                Robin Jenssen  2 weeks back

                                737 is the sexiest plane in my opinion, should never be discontinued!

                                • 津波うま味
                                  津波うま味  2 weeks back

                                  I had booked my flight from India to Malaysia but cancelled it after finding out that was a Boeing aircraft ...now I am going through Singapore to Malaysia by an operator who uses airbus ....I will never fly Boeing ever again.... neither will my family.. if it's Boeing I ain't going ..American corporations are slowly showing out their capitalistic greed

                                  • Chris Jovy
                                    Chris Jovy  5 days back

                                    @津波うま味 I'm not about brand loyalty. For me, it's too much of a media overreaction. It's unfortunate to say but these lives were lost in fixing the problem, Boeings management. Boeings is great but the management is killing it.

                                  • 津波うま味
                                    津波うま味  5 days back

                                    @Chris Jovy I agree with you man ..but tell me if you would would put Ur wife and 2 kids on a 737 max knowing what happened ..? I wouldn't coz we are frequent flyers around 4 round trips every month ... My family especially my kids safety is much more valuable to me than brand loyalty .

                                  • German Aviation
                                    German Aviation  5 days back

                                    Chris Jovy Perfectly said. Media controls too much these days.

                                  • Chris Jovy
                                    Chris Jovy  1 weeks back

                                    All airplanes could be a deathtrap. Also not to remove the blame on Boeing but Airbus uses the same system of making their planes training as simple as it can be. The A380 cockpit is almost as similar as the A340, every aviation company dose this to reduce costs and have more orders. I personally did fly on the MAX but the media overreaction is a way too much. The B747 had 61 hull losses ( due to the poor security pre-2001, and back in the 70s/80s where plane bombings was the #1 thing that terrorists did) while The max only had 2. Southwest had 44,000K flights and had zero incidents. I will wait about 2-3 years after recertification but after that, I am back in the plane due to being a frequent traveler. Personally, I do prefer Boeing because its more comfortable and has more legroom (usually) than Airbus. Also, all corporations are meant to make profits, If it wasn't Eastern airlines an American company Airbus would have never existed.

                                • gmrb79s
                                  gmrb79s  2 weeks back

                                  I was expecting metrics actually

                                  • Jerry Massey
                                    Jerry Massey  2 weeks back

                                    Most people commenting here have no idea what they are saying and only taking a media perspective to shape their own opinions. It is sad that people have become so weak minded that they cannot look at the facts themselves and speak intelligently afterwards. Most refuse to waste the additional time it takes to get the right information, much less speak intelligently. It is much easier to spew hatred across the internet than facts I suppose. Boeing did offer training packages on the MCAS and other systems of the aircraft but many countries did not purchase the training. As the narrator said, this aircraft flies the same today as it did 50 years ago. American Airlines did not purchase the training and they did not crash a single aircraft. Most 1st world countries did not purchase any of the training and most did not crash an aircraft. But, there are flaws in everything man made. Nothing is perfect. Airbus had multiple issues with the A380 but no one is talking about those today. Wanna know why we have rounded windows in all aircraft today? Go ask DeHavilland how three of their jets exploded off the coast of Africa because pressurized cabins and square windows lead to stress fractures over a short period of operation. Better yet, lets ask Lockheed Martin about their C130 wing spar issues?I have a degree in Aeronautics, an A&P license, a pilots license, and a multitude of other licenses in the field of aviation. But what I have never obtained is the ability to witness false statements and hatred spewed by those who have absolutely no credentials to speak about a subject and have the ability to sit back and allow it to happen. Just sit down, shut up, and let the real engineers fix the issue.

                                    • John Smith
                                      John Smith  2 weeks back

                                      The fact that Boeing kept redesigning and updating the 737 to be able to sell the plane on price instead of fuel efficiency wasn't what led to the crashes and grounding. Where Boeing messed up was by designing MCAS in such a way that it took all of its critical Angle Of Attack data from a single sensor. When that one sensor was defective, damaged, or frozen, it sent erroneous readings into the MCAS system, which ordered the plane to go nose-down to "correct" a stall condition that was not actually happening. Depending on one sensor created a "single point of failure", which is a design flaw that good "belt and suspenders" engineers avoid. Two independent sensors feeding the MCAS and a warning signal to pilots that that the sensors aren't agreeing would be better. Three independent sensors feeding a logic circuit that disregards a sensor that is not in agreement with the other two and "assumes" the two that agree are correct, doesn't feed the bad sensor's bad data to MCAS, AND warns pilots of the sensor issue is probably what SHOULD have been designed in the first place, but some non-engineering middle manager came up with a cheaper idea on behalf of Boeing's shareholders.

                                      • Mike‘s World
                                        Mike‘s World  2 weeks back

                                        The problem of capitalist, short term thinking. Don’t get me wrong, capitalism ist the only war to runnan economy, but we have to get rid of that short term thinking.. it is all about the next quarter that counts. That does not work. Investors, CEOs and politicians in the West need to learn to thinknin longer terms. What are is our goal for the next 10, 20 or 30 years ... politicians only think until the next election and business leaders only worry about the next quarter .. this is a way of operating, that lead to disaster isn so many cases and nobody is learning from these mistakes 🤦🏻‍♂️

                                        • Mike‘s World
                                          Mike‘s World  2 weeks back

                                          The MAX doesn’t just have a warning light .. it has a full EICAS System

                                          • Mike‘s World
                                            Mike‘s World  2 weeks back

                                            It is time to replace the 737 ASAP. Boeing could build something awesome like the 787, just smaller.

                                            • ADM midnightcamowolf
                                              ADM midnightcamowolf  2 weeks back

                                              Please don't bash the BOEING COMPANY'S B737MAX

                                              • JeSSoN L
                                                JeSSoN L  2 weeks back

                                                안녕하세요 hallo

                                                • Steven Virden Rasmussen-Jones

                                                  These kinds of faulty decisions are made in the board room all the time.

                                                  • Pwj579
                                                    Pwj579  2 weeks back

                                                    Oversimplification based on hearsay

                                                    • GK Fujiwara Esquibel
                                                      GK Fujiwara Esquibel  2 weeks back

                                                      I Also Noticed The 737 MAX Is Now Slightly Raised Higher Than The 737 NG, But It Still Didn't Help About The Engine Size Issue. Well They Raised It Even Further Forward And Up And The CFM LEAP 1B Did Fit, But It Really Didn't Handle The Same As The 737 NGs. Damn You Aerodynamics.

                                                      • An-T M
                                                        An-T M  2 weeks back

                                                        Not a HASTY DECISION, a PREMEDITATED decision to put executive financial gain over safety. Criminal negligence with no one held accountable.

                                                        • An-T M
                                                          An-T M  2 weeks back

                                                          LOSTN65. Isnt that a disgrace? No one fired, no bonuses returned. Like our corrupt Gov't no one held accountable. Premeditated murder for bonuses & SHAREHOLDER value, short term.

                                                          • An-T M
                                                            An-T M  2 weeks back

                                                            Correct, mission statement is SHAREHOLDER value, not quality or safety. I argued that a quality product would produce increased shareholder value. But I didn't get bonuses, which dictate most decisions.

                                                            • Ball4life
                                                              Ball4life  2 weeks back

                                                              What I’m getting from this whole video as an avgeek is SUE AMERICAN AIRLINES NOT BOEING😂😂😂😂😂😂

                                                              • Bill Barr
                                                                Bill Barr  2 weeks back

                                                                Brilliant video with clear explanation about the issues that led to the development and the engineering problems about the 737 Max. This should be the textbook video for this topic and will hopefully help prevent Boeing or any others making poor decisions that can cause massive loss of life in the future.

                                                                • Yashas Balguri
                                                                  Yashas Balguri  2 weeks back

                                                                  MCAS- May Crash At any Second

                                                                  • Muhammad Arekat
                                                                    Muhammad Arekat  2 weeks back

                                                                    7:11 The takeoff was from Bahrain, my home country!

                                                                    • jacobsladder375
                                                                      jacobsladder375  2 weeks back

                                                                      If you think safety is expensive try an accident.

                                                                      • Dan Sotelo
                                                                        Dan Sotelo  2 weeks back

                                                                        Sorry Boeing, you just created a MAX human killing machine, and every single MAX will need to be scrapped. There is no electronic gadget that will fix your unnatural flying machine.  This is not a F-117 with an ejection seat if all else fails with its electronic gadgets needed to keep it flying, but an airplane with innocent people with no ejection seats for anyone.  SCRAP THEM.

                                                                        • Alex Mobii
                                                                          Alex Mobii  3 weeks back

                                                                          Don't fly Boeing. They have more crash incidents than Airbuses.

                                                                          • Pixxelll
                                                                            Pixxelll  2 weeks back

                                                                            But there are more boeing plane than airbuses

                                                                        • Frank Lee
                                                                          Frank Lee  3 weeks back

                                                                          Who cares! Passengers just want a safe plane.

                                                                          • Hanif Shakiba
                                                                            Hanif Shakiba  3 weeks back

                                                                            He was explaining the decisions and reasons that led to Boeing making an unsafe plane. That was literally the point of the video.

                                                                        • T8PolestarCyan
                                                                          T8PolestarCyan  3 weeks back

                                                                          Airbus 320 Neo or EVEN Comac C919 for me!

                                                                          • Augustini Diaz
                                                                            Augustini Diaz  3 weeks back

                                                                            The designer of the MAX was not briefed about the requirement that the airplane had to actually fly in the air.

                                                                            • David Endara
                                                                              David Endara  3 weeks back

                                                                              Some other consequences that could follow if something else goes wrong with Boeing might be:

                                                                              - 777x late once again.
                                                                              - Boeing's stock price drops
                                                                              - Airlines postpone the A380 retirement, since the 777x would not coming any time soon.
                                                                              - A220 sales rise, and A220 becomes world's most popular single aisle. (As of today, airlines and passengers already love it.)
                                                                              - Chinese Comac gets a real chance to enter the aircraft market.
                                                                              - Project Sunrise chooses A350 to fly non stop from London to Sydney
                                                                              - Dreamliner and Embraer become crucial for Boeing's Survival.
                                                                              - Lockheed buys Boeing (or part of it) and becomes world's biggest aircraft manufacturer.
                                                                              - New regional aircraft manufacturers enter the market.
                                                                              - Big corporations realize that karma exists in the market.

                                                                              • Mel Perry
                                                                                Mel Perry  3 weeks back

                                                                                how do you screw up a wet dream?, ask boeing

                                                                                • Mel Perry
                                                                                  Mel Perry  3 weeks back

                                                                                  boeing gave new meaning to
                                                                                  the phrase "made in the usa"

                                                                                  • Mel Perry
                                                                                    Mel Perry  3 weeks back

                                                                                    boeing USED to build great airplanes

                                                                                    • tiffsaver
                                                                                      tiffsaver  3 weeks back

                                                                                      How are those "improvements" coming, Boeing??