Who Was The Better Joker? Ledger Or Phoenix?

  • Published: 05 October 2019
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    Let the battle begin.

    With the arrival of director Todd Phillips' long-awaited Joker movie, a new challenger has entered the arena in hopes of becoming the new Best Joker Actor Ever. His name? Joaquin Phoenix. His game? Well, doing his job and delivering the chilling kind of performance he knows is required of him, but possibly also dethroning the late Heath Ledger in the process.

    Since the announcement of Joker, fans have pit Phoenix and Ledger against one another, placing bets on whether or not the newcomer could shock and scare audiences as the failed-comedian-turned-crazed-killer Arthur Fleck as much as Ledger did through his turn in Christopher Nolan's The Dark Knight. The debate over Phoenix and Ledger as the Joker began months ago, but with the world finally able to see Phoenix strut his stuff in clown makeup and a tattered suit, the fight is no longer theoretical.

    So, now that Joker has landed in theaters, who played the character better: Joaquin Phoenix or Heath Ledger?

    Plenty of people were totally floored by the work Phoenix did in Joker, so much so that they now consider him better in the role than the late Ledger. Some even think Phoenix is the best Joker actor point blank.

    "Are you having any negative thoughts?"

    "All I have are negative thoughts."

    One Twitter user wrote:

    "With all due respect to previous Jokers and to the great Heath Ledger, Joaquin Phoenix is the best Joker. He has everything it needs. We finally have a proper actor playing the character in a very unfamiliar new shape. If Ledger's a straight flush, Phoenix's a full deck."

    Another fan tweeted:

    "I thought it would take a long time before someone delivers Joker better than Heath Ledger. As it turned out it only took 11 years and a certain Joaquin Phoenix."

    This fan continued to gush over Phoenix's performance in another tweet, writing,

    "Joaquin Phoenix should get an Oscar, a golden globe, an Olympic gold medal, a Nobel prize, a ballon d'or, Knighthood, a champions league winner medal and a presidential medal of freedom for his performance as the joker." Keep watching the video to see who was the better Joker? Ledger or Phoenix?

    #Joker #JoaquinPhoenixJoker #HeathLedgerJoker
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Comments • 4 328

  • Looper
    Looper   2 weeks back

    Which actor crushed the role of the Joker the best?

    • Xenomaster Alien
      Xenomaster Alien  8 hours back

      Looper its 50/50 for me. They’re phenomenal in their own, different ways.

    • hakoliniox
      hakoliniox  11 hours back

      Phoenix, no doubt.

    • All Times
      All Times  13 hours back

      I can only say

      Two sides of a coin

      Stop comparing them both are legends

    • Gog Mclaine
      Gog Mclaine  16 hours back


    • Yashraj Rohadiya
      Yashraj Rohadiya  16 hours back

      Of course heath ledger

  • Jimmy B
    Jimmy B  2 hours back

    Dumb movie. Just saw it. Don’t waste time or money. It’s friggin stupid and melodramatic. Guy stinks .

    • Haruka Sobue
      Haruka Sobue  6 hours back

      We can’t say which is better cuz they have different personalities but I prefer JOKER by Ledjer 😭✨ Really wanted to see more his act in dark knight.

      • Gog Mclaine
        Gog Mclaine  16 hours back


        • raveesh Srinivasan
          raveesh Srinivasan  17 hours back

          Best not to compare , they are at par

          • soulbytes
            soulbytes  19 hours back

            All just great depends on the type of the story.. I like the dark knight more than others (for dark joker)

            • Lebendiges Gespenst
              Lebendiges Gespenst  22 hours back

              The media just doesn’t like this movie

              • SSAG
                SSAG  1 days back

                Heath ledger was soooooooo f'ing overrated, jared leto just plain sucked balls. Nicholson was awesome, Phoenix was brilliant. PERIOD!

                • Stefan Mikkelsen
                  Stefan Mikkelsen  1 days back

                  Ledger is still the best.

                  • Marcus Rodriguez
                    Marcus Rodriguez  1 days back

                    Joaquin did the origin of Joker, Ledger did Prime Joker it’s not comparable

                    • Z
                      Z  1 days back

                      Compare Less. Enjoy More

                      • Arun Kalannavar
                        Arun Kalannavar  1 days back


                        • Ali Ghayad
                          Ali Ghayad  1 days back

                          The way Phoenix embodied Joker was WAY more terrifying.

                          • Arvin Garcia
                            Arvin Garcia  2 days back

                            As of now, heath's the best. Winning an award is waaaay too far from having none. As of now. But for me, both are the best. Joaquin's beginning and Heath's present.

                            • Shah  Boshor
                              Shah Boshor  2 days back

                              This seems like a Ronaldo and messi situation. Let's just enjoy them both

                              • Adrian Miqhail
                                Adrian Miqhail  2 days back

                                Phoenix: The beginning of Joker
                                Ledger: Prime time Joker
                                Nicholson: Well aged Joker

                                • Aslam Basha
                                  Aslam Basha  2 days back

                                  I think best jocker one and only...phoenix😘😘😘😘

                                  • Teddy Lam-yam
                                    Teddy Lam-yam  2 days back

                                    Mortal Kombat 11: Ledger vs Phoenix ... Equality !! Joker Wins !!!

                                    • Maruchan Chiken
                                      Maruchan Chiken  2 days back

                                      Joaquin was a better joker because he was more closer to reality then heath, even tho heaths performance was phenomenal and unforgettable His script made his character very comical and far from reality, there’s no way a lunatic could pull all of that off, but it is possible for a maniac to get a hold of a gun and go on a killing spree. Also Joaquins character had us feel human sympathy for him which makes his character more disturbing.

                                      • Nate Cassidy
                                        Nate Cassidy  2 days back

                                        Same character but different times in that character’s “career”. Ledger’s Joker was a great foil to Batman, but how would a movie fare with that character in every single scene of the movie, and no Batman at all? And would the Phoenix Joker be as menacing going up against Batman? Ledger’s was a blank slate with no info that the police could dig up on him, Phoenix’s is a guy who ran out of his meds and is fed up with the way society has treated him. Both amazing, both chilling, both completely different and almost impossible to compare.

                                        • Bali Piano Video Channel

                                          Comic lovers will choose Heath. Movie lovers who love to see an art of acting definitely choose Joaquin.

                                          • shaun humphreys
                                            shaun humphreys  26 minutes back

                                            what we dont like is, doing a social justice mental health movie and using the joker' tag and gotham from d.c. when arthur is nothing like the joker and this is nothing like the comics or taken from the comics at all. heath ledger is the movie embodiment of the comic book joker perfectly-heath invents a totally new idiosyncratic new york accent with deep tonality, plus a nasally consistency complete with lip smacking, completely different to heath's natural voice, both terrifying and comedic, the way he physically moves is so perfect, like the way he kicks batman when his cronies are holding batman down, aided by genius sharp dialogue. pheonix doesnt bother making a new voice, he uses his own accent, his own pitch. so heath is way way above phoenix or jack nicholson.if this was a socially conscious mental health movie rather than claiming to be the joker in batman's city then i could take this as an excellent deep character treatment by phoenix-except for shit dialogue. as it is, this cant even be rated in a list of best jokers, because this is not the joker.

                                        • Megumi Bandicoot
                                          Megumi Bandicoot  2 days back

                                          This is nonsense. Everyone knows Mark Hamill is the scariest Joker of them all.

                                          *Tell me, Bats. What are you really scared off?*

                                          *Failing to save this cesspool of a city?*

                                          *Not finding the Commissioner in time?*

                                          *ME? IN A THONG?*

                                          • B H
                                            B H  3 days back

                                            I love phoenixs joker it was a master peace and its the best joker in his movie heaths joker wouldn't work in that movie and same with jp in dark Knight

                                            • graceholt35
                                              graceholt35  3 days back

                                              Phoenix wins no doubt

                                              • 77moessa
                                                77moessa  3 days back

                                                Jared who??

                                                • Војкан Селаковић

                                                  Joaquin's Joker is for grown ups.

                                                  • TheReal Winner
                                                    TheReal Winner  3 days back

                                                    Ledger was crazy from the beginning. He had power from the beginning. It was an amazing play from him but Phoenix had more work to do. His character was getting crazier scene after scene. He had to show madness piece by piece from soft to hard. Joker movie after the end made me thinkin bout it all night and the very next day. I never saw an actor playing a mental unstable person soooo gooooddd..it was like I was watching documentsry. Maestro actor

                                                    • vicky L
                                                      vicky L  4 days back

                                                      They are both incomparable in their own style..

                                                      • Lola K. Alm
                                                        Lola K. Alm  4 days back

                                                        Joaquín always

                                                        • Peter Parker Recycle Bin

                                                          Both of them have a brilliant acting but for some good reason I feel more familiar with Heath Ledger version

                                                          • Ryan Frink
                                                            Ryan Frink  4 days back

                                                            When the Dark Knight came out, I was mesmerized by Ledger's joker. He took it in a completely different direction and I loved his performance.

                                                            With that said, after seeing JP's Joker, my jaw was on the floor pretty much the whole movie. This is some of the best acting I have ever seen! While I love both jokers, and each have their own distinct, and unique brand......I have to say I prefer JP's performance, personally. Not to disrespect Ledger at all, because he too was amazing.

                                                            Remember, this is all opinion. There is not right or wrong answer, just your own opinion.

                                                            • Roman Ramos
                                                              Roman Ramos  4 days back

                                                              NOOOOPE!! Looper is wrong, as always. Ledger's the one that pushed it to what we've seen trying to portray from these other two jokers, pun intended.

                                                              • Corona paps
                                                                Corona paps  4 days back

                                                                Imo Arthur Fleck is the best joker ever

                                                                • John Conte
                                                                  John Conte  4 days back

                                                                  Ledger. And it’s not even close

                                                                  • Donald Trump
                                                                    Donald Trump  4 days back

                                                                    *Imagine A Universe Like this*

                                                                    Best:Jared Leto

                                                                    Worst:Heath Ledger

                                                                  • Juan Mejia
                                                                    Juan Mejia  4 days back

                                                                    Ledger will always be the best joker the way he prepared himself for the role and what he did

                                                                    • Deven Cook
                                                                      Deven Cook  4 days back

                                                                      you're right there is no best joker but we definitely know who the worst was *coughs* Jared leto

                                                                      • Lee Weitz
                                                                        Lee Weitz  4 days back

                                                                        Joaquin 🙌🏼🙌🏼

                                                                        • TOONFLIX
                                                                          TOONFLIX  4 days back

                                                                          I still like heath than joaquinn they all have different versions and different characteristics and this is why i love heath ledger. He is matured and talks about the balance of the world which is him represents as the bad guy(antagonist) and batman is the good guy(protagonist) what makes the movie so good is that heath joker has a goal to prove something and make an impact around the world the human behavior of each and everyone of us lets us think to choose the good side or the bad side. Which batman proves him wrong that the people of gotham(us humans) are good and not bad(the bomb ship scene). He explain it to batman when he was caught saying "when the first line of trouble gets drop this civilized people will eat each other" which basically happens in reality and even now for ex. The war , us-china trade or territory nation by nation. Etc.." and the batman is us humans(for only those who understand of whats happening in the environment who wants to make some changes and also wants to prove something equality ,justice etc.. in the world) not mentioning thier performance that they are really suited as being the joker and the batman. 👏👏👏. While on joaquin joker i like it a lot hes performance is outstanding but idont like the characteristics of joker on that film he is unmatured more focuses only on him and the sad part is the sequel they change the story of joker. completely changed which supposed to be just a stranger no records no names and no complete existence where he came from at all thats the character of joker.

                                                                          • online ninja
                                                                            online ninja  5 days back

                                                                            *LETO HAS LEFT THE CHAT*

                                                                            • monty wilson
                                                                              monty wilson  5 days back

                                                                              We can’t compare these 2 their both absolutely amazing as Joaquin’s joker shows his life growing up and the sad truth of society and mental illness as heaths joker is great both flawless!

                                                                              • groid
                                                                                groid  5 days back

                                                                                Phoenix by far, ledger's joker was far too edgy and made me cringe, while phoenix was more crazy

                                                                                • Nightfrost joins the FCC

                                                                                  Ledger is an amazing actor. He’s a legendary joker, but I accept that Phoenix’s joker is infact outstanding. And yeah you can argue he was emotional, but the movie is to show the audience how he became joker. Maybe later we’ll see the same joker just less emotional.

                                                                                  • StrangerOf The206
                                                                                    StrangerOf The206  5 days back

                                                                                    Leave it to Looper to make a video comparing the two...

                                                                                    • Bettina Ouaknine
                                                                                      Bettina Ouaknine  5 days back

                                                                                      I thought Jared Leto’s Joker was a tad too campy whereas Joaquin Phoenix always challenges himself in taking difficult roles; he is a serious and gifted actor and his portrayal of Joker was seriously gifted!

                                                                                      • King Trawal
                                                                                        King Trawal  5 days back

                                                                                        Let me put it this way... Joaquin Phoenix Version = Jordan, Ledger's version = Lebron. I'll go with the Undefeated guy with 6 rings, and 6 Finals MVPs....but Lebron is okay. not too bad. But a bridesmaid nonetheless.

                                                                                        • King Trawal
                                                                                          King Trawal  4 days back

                                                                                          Don Fharis ^^ Bronsexual triggggggerred 😂🖕

                                                                                        • Don Fharis
                                                                                          Don Fharis  4 days back

                                                                                          Dumb comparison tbh

                                                                                      • Charlie Johnston
                                                                                        Charlie Johnston  5 days back

                                                                                        Ledger was great and really got into the character, But Phoenix is downright crazy so they both did good in there roles.

                                                                                        • LD xxx
                                                                                          LD xxx  5 days back

                                                                                          Phoenix for sure