The Office - Signs of a Declining Sitcom

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  • faburil
    faburil  5 hours back

    You could have saved yourself all this trouble by cutting the video down to the two pertinent facts you mention: 1) When a show runs too long, writers run out of ideas and 2) Key Cast and Writers left the show, but the network still wanted to grab some cash.


    Your presentation is good, but most of this essay is simply pointing to different scenes and juxtaposing them, without much analysis.

    • True Sleepy
      True Sleepy  7 hours back

      It gets better

      • True Sleepy
        True Sleepy  7 hours back

        I disagree with everything you said

        • Crafter741
          Crafter741  7 hours back

          Does anyone know where I can find Andy at the eye rinsing station clip? I've browsed forever to find it.

          • Will Sterben
            Will Sterben  7 hours back

            WTF did they bring Catherine Tate in for? She's SHITE.

            • Mrreebo
              Mrreebo  9 hours back

              alright guy did you just imply that marrying a high-school sweet heart means you are incapable of maturing as a person?

              • Penrose
                Penrose  9 hours back

                Just finished re-watching this series. I agree with most points, but it really boils down to Michael leaving and the last 2 seasons feeling like a ghost of the former show. They were hitting so many high notes seasons 1-7 that any writing or character errors were dwarfed.

                • sassypenguin
                  sassypenguin  13 hours back

                  7:57

                  • First Name Last Name
                    First Name Last Name  20 hours back

                    The biggest issue is you think something's wrong with a wolf shirt

                    • iDealaeDi
                      iDealaeDi  20 hours back

                      I appreciate the opinionated assessment of this video but for petes sake it's a comedy. If it withheld all the consistencies of the characters that youre looking for it would not only take an elite level of intricate writing but it would sacrifice a lot of the comedy.

                      I think viewing the office through this critical lens is doing it a disservice and is like judging an army tank by how fast it goes. That's not what it was made for.

                      • Deebo
                        Deebo  1 days back

                        All of this love shite makes my head hurt.

                        • TOMERATOR person
                          TOMERATOR person  1 days back

                          Killing Andy as a unique character was what killed the show. I may be bias cause people say that I am most like Andy out of all the characters in the office, but at least I don't have lazy writers that say i have erectile dysfunction, an ultra dysfunctional family out of nowhere, and a mystery vacation that leads to the end of a relationship that took 3 years in the making with my girlfriend

                          • Claire Dé Lune
                            Claire Dé Lune  1 days back

                            I was confused by the "chlamydia" joke too. I mean, they ruined Andy in season 9.

                            • elsamso
                              elsamso  1 days back

                              i never really liked andy's character

                              • TrippyThreat
                                TrippyThreat  1 days back

                                Once mike left the show went to shit. Deangelo was unconvincing and uninteresting, I don't need to explain why i think Nelly was bad, and andy was so boring.

                                • xSportacus
                                  xSportacus  1 days back

                                  some of that editing was awful

                                  • SafeSpace Post
                                    SafeSpace Post  2 days back

                                    Nahhh... the whole thing was fun and they made it work. Robert California, D'Angelo, etc. all forgiven. Nard Dog was great. It all worked. The story arcs were pretty fun, and the turnover is common to most workplaces. Some people you like, some you don't. It truly was a reflection of life.

                                    • Robert Dell
                                      Robert Dell  2 days back

                                      Is it me or does it small like Updog in here?

                                    • Manit Amin
                                      Manit Amin  2 days back

                                      At 32:20 he mentions subtlety and relatability. I think that's why Seinfeld remains one of the greatest sitcoms if not the best. The whole show revolves around the minutae of life. And due to lack of character development (unlike Dwight), the show manages to extract a comedic essence out of almost everything.

                                      • Roxann
                                        Roxann  2 days back

                                        9 seasons that people play on loop on Netflix and Comedy Central still airs- they did something right. The last few episodes makeup for any bumps after Andy becomes managee

                                        • cyborg264
                                          cyborg264  2 days back

                                          This assessment is flawed in many ways, many more ways than I myself could point out, but one major flaw is that Jesse fails to bring up one of the largest factors of the behavior fueling these characters. If you watch the documentary on the UK original series, they mention that the characters, most-notably Brent, are acting absurdly BECAUSE they know they are being filmed and are playing up to the cameras. This is what causes the absurdity in the first place for both David and Michael, and of course the teams that follow. Watching the UK documentary puts alot of reason behind why The Office was filmed in the style it was and gives solid foundation as to why the behaviors were as they were. This of course does not excuse silly writing but it DOES bolster a little more justification in the level of silly we watched from the show(s). The Office UK simply had Ricky Garvais unleash his natural humor where it was literally his goofy self being free on a mock-u-drama whereas the American show held much stricter guidelines for the actors (this is why season 1 almost cancelled, it was a risk for the money bags involved to see how this same chemistry would play out but it nearly failed until they came in and Americanized it.

                                          • Kyle Freckleton
                                            Kyle Freckleton  2 days back

                                            Some good points made, but overall way too critical and sterile of a critique. Get bent Jesse Trible.

                                            • Toastydoom69
                                              Toastydoom69  2 days back

                                              The D'Angelo MLG montage convinced me to subscribe. 10/10 video

                                              • Jay Summ
                                                Jay Summ  2 days back

                                                The awkward scene between Jim and Roy in the pilot is such a great example of why season 1 is my least favorite season. Uncomfortable awkwardness without a joke is just painful. It's not fun to watch. After season 1 they started to understand the importance of adding humor to the awkward and uncomfortable situations to maximize their impact.

                                                Also, you said the scene of Jim running away from Robert California wasn't relatable.....have you really never tried to sneak away to avoid an awkward or dangerous conversation? I find that scene very relatable. Saying the scene isn't relatable because you've never climbed on a roof is like saying the show isn't relatable because you never worked for a paper company. You can find scene relatable without having done exactly what is happening in the scene.

                                                • SPNKr
                                                  SPNKr  1 days back

                                                  He doesn't understand comedic effect, at least in that example.

                                              • Luke Enno
                                                Luke Enno  2 days back

                                                The show stayed great through season six (although things were starting to slow down in season six). It was okay in season seven. It became closer to unwatchable for seasons eight and nine. Mike needs to be in the show for it to work and him not being there stopped it from working in the way that we came to know the show.

                                                • Potion Seller
                                                  Potion Seller  2 days back

                                                  My favourite season is the one after Michael leaves. Idk why

                                                  • Schemattics
                                                    Schemattics  2 days back

                                                    This video is just looking for a reason to complain. There are fantastic things about the latter seasons, just as there are in the earlier ones.

                                                    • Lizard King
                                                      Lizard King  2 days back

                                                      I like how the visual effects to avoid copyright strikes and automatic facial recognition make it all trippy and stuff :D

                                                      • BigNibba362
                                                        BigNibba362  3 days back

                                                        Idk I liked when Dwight was successful. And when he made Gabe take him to Robert, I thought it was hilarious.

                                                        • Blake Ross
                                                          Blake Ross  3 days back

                                                          This was all pretty accurate for me. However, I think you can simplify it by acknowledging the show was over after Michael left. Sure, the idea may have been that Jim was the main character, but he wasn’t the comedic genius. The show was built and designed around the manager in both the British and American versions. I have many doubts that there will ever be another show as funny as The Office, and it is infinitely re-watchable. I just prefer to have Michaels departure as the last episode.

                                                          • FightMiki Fight
                                                            FightMiki Fight  3 days back

                                                            I hate this show..

                                                            • Glenn Beauchamp
                                                              Glenn Beauchamp  3 days back

                                                              I think your taking this show too seriously.
                                                              It’s just entertainment, they are not real.
                                                              Sit back, relax and enjoy the show.

                                                            • Andre M
                                                              Andre M  3 days back

                                                              Bruh, this video is so informative and hilarious! So many times I laughed during this😂

                                                              • Ubiquitox
                                                                Ubiquitox  3 days back

                                                                I think although I agree Andy in the later seasons was kinda a "meh" character due to writing him out for filming of the hangover and stuff then bringing him back. Andy even when he was imitating michael, this was all stuff he learned from Michael, right? He was a copycat from the moment we met him. He just mirrored things he'd seen done before, so he kind of copied Michael. I get that impression solely because even the intro had him trying to copy Michael with adjusting something on his desk with the difference being he failed. Andy was a good character until after he left for the boat trip, I'll admit at that point it got weird.


                                                                Outside of that, Dwight had a pretty great time becoming a person. At first he didn't know how to deal with a lot of the stuff going on around him, because as you said he didn't understand people. He was a salesman. Who tried to imitate Michael a lot. Eventually we saw a character shift from a follower to an attempted leader role. He had problems with Michael eventually. When he tried to take Michael's job, he was his own person from then on. He no longer rallied behind Michael like a 2 year old imitating the coolest thing they'd ever seen. He started to realize maybe Jim was someone to be imitated instead, he started to learn how to deal with people more and more throughout the show. I think that is really summed up in the finale.


                                                                The other issue that should be addressed is YES, this is a TV show. However, we did not live EVERY single day of the characters lives with them. There were clearly times in between, for example at the start of season 9 episode 1. We have Erin excited about Andy's wilderness retreat return, and Jim and Pam talking to the cameras about how the summer was boring and they just have work and kids, life probably won't get crazy from there on. ALSO this show was a Mockumentary, you mentioned this at the start of your video, but seem to have completely ignored it within the analysis. People are not perfect, which is why sometimes we see Dwight being a badass or Jim failing at a prank. Yes it is a scripted show, but the idea behind the scripts were to make them FEEL human. This is encompassed by the fact that every one of the characters has good and bad days. The "Main Character" of this show was the Office itself. It would never have been the same show if they changed out all of the people and kept going but, it's meant to follow the office workers in their lives. For better or worse, that is what the documentary style did for the show.


                                                                I think the show felt good where it ended. I don't think it got *THAT* much worse after Michael's departure. Except during the first couple episodes with DeAngelo. I think those were the absolute lowest point in the series by far. This is all just my own opinions of course. I enjoyed the video.

                                                                • SbeveSpeilman
                                                                  SbeveSpeilman  3 days back

                                                                  HECK FRICK OFFICE GOOD HECK HECK FRIKIN FRICK YOUR OPINION HECKIN FRICK TRASH HECK FRIK FRIKLE FRICK HECK YOU

                                                                  • Smiley
                                                                    Smiley  3 days back

                                                                    i know you have a well put argument and everything but here’s the deal:



                                                                    nah....

                                                                    • Cyborg Jim
                                                                      Cyborg Jim  4 days back

                                                                      Dwight changed for a good reason. He developed a friendship with Pam, and got closer to Jim. That make him understand how human emotions works and every joke from Jim. Yeah, they keep used the nerdy side for jokes, but he went through a lot of relationships and sadness that make him more appealing to us. Dwight's ark is just cute, i was really happy went he jump from an ass kisser to a grumpy person cause it felt like he was really growing up.

                                                                      • Dave March
                                                                        Dave March  4 days back

                                                                        I wish I could have fast forwarded through all the Michael Scott scenes. Or Photoshopped him out. I HATED him. Very painful to watch such a broken and neurotic man always the center of attention. Otherwise I really enjoyed *The Office*. Quirky, interesting, and often lovable characters. And a very sweet story between Jim & Pam. In fairness to Steve Carell, he was not the director. And I did like him in other things.

                                                                        • Knifiac
                                                                          Knifiac  48 minutes back

                                                                          You watched the office and you hated Michael Scott?

                                                                      • Teri Silsby
                                                                        Teri Silsby  4 days back

                                                                        Excellent analysis.

                                                                        • Kaustubh Joshi
                                                                          Kaustubh Joshi  4 days back

                                                                          Andy's character never really got going for me. In the second season, he was portrayed as an arrogant and competitive man. Shows considerable improvement in the next seasons but ended on a terrible note.
                                                                          Still, two of my favourite scenes comes from Andy.
                                                                          PARKOUR intro and "I wish there were a way to know ....... "

                                                                          • divan osoba
                                                                            divan osoba  4 days back

                                                                            Dude, how da fuk you got so much free time? i watched the whole show, but it would take me months of over analyzing all of this, to make 30 min video

                                                                            • snctm.
                                                                              snctm.  4 days back

                                                                              Michael Scott was the worst character to ever grace TV.

                                                                              • crshook
                                                                                crshook  4 days back

                                                                                I wish there was a way to know if you are in the good old days before u left em damn that was a sad line

                                                                                • dean robinson
                                                                                  dean robinson  4 days back

                                                                                  Dwight went 2d to 3d - a geek comfortable in his own skin. I didn't find his development jarring, just the opposite. His relationship with michael seemed quite natural.

                                                                                  • Otto Schele
                                                                                    Otto Schele  4 days back

                                                                                    I think one aspect worth exploring is the fact that they have a camera crew following them around. They might be normal in the beginning cause they're uncomfortable in front of the cameras. Later on they do crazy shit because they think it will be good TV.

                                                                                    • seanzoz
                                                                                      seanzoz  4 days back

                                                                                      I just popped in to say The Office was the best show in the history of the world. That said, no one really expected it to be as good after Michael Scott left. We got a few wind down seasons just to help us cope.

                                                                                      • Sarah Tonin
                                                                                        Sarah Tonin  4 days back

                                                                                        Finally someone said something.

                                                                                        • Lynn Point
                                                                                          Lynn Point  4 days back

                                                                                          The whole Robert California detour was a disaster.