Forget the Tug of War! All Electric Trucks Have This Achilles Heel Including the Tesla Cybertruck!

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  • SquishBangBlow
    SquishBangBlow  2 weeks back

    *The Ike Gauntlet and off-road segments were great!*

    • nelio SAMch
      nelio SAMch  22 hours back

      @Billy Putnam Yes, I agree. The problem with regenerative breaking is that it won't work if battery is over 80% of charge. But if it is on electrify road the excess of electricity go back to the grid. When driving on electric roads for safety reasons the speed limit is 60mph and it can go faster but no recommended.

    • Billy Putnam
      Billy Putnam  22 hours back

      @nelio SAMch it's so Wrong that the people in these situations are interested in the next Dollar to be made and removed from your account and not how much can we save and how far can we go! Do you know if they have even optimized the recharging while driving\Towing? Some race cars use a alternator that drives off of the drive shafts or wheels\moving parts instead of the parasitic losses off of the engine. And say belts\Gearing to the trailer wheels are free spinning and could be a good place for Regen to get more power from when braking or down hilling etc?

    • Billy Putnam
      Billy Putnam  22 hours back

      @The Fast Lane Truck I have Asked a few other's and it seems to be a unknown thing at this point. Does the range extender work while you are driving down the road or do you need to be parked and the vehicle off? And I was curious about the Weights for Towing and the Accompanied Miles away for Towing? For instance. If you have a lightweight Trailer for a Snowmobile\ATV total weight about the 1.000lbs area does the range stay close to the regular Range? And where is the Break Away points? We're the weights really starts to make a massive amount of damage to the expected available Miles Left? A idea of a Short course loop while you drive the same speed the same way but increasing the weight of the trailer with a exact amount of weight added each loop and see what happens with the expected mileage and then you could add Speeds in the later part of the test loop to see how much the speeds discharges more quickly as long as you do it at the same place\point. Also do you know if you can use a home rated Generator for a Backup for when you come up Short on destination? Say like a 5.500 Watt 110-220Volt Generator and say a slightly higher level one that's capable of doing 7-10k Watts and [email protected]? Thanks (Good luck)

    • Billy Putnam
      Billy Putnam  23 hours back

      @jack daniels the problem is that the trailer weight and speed is killing the available distance from the battery pack. With the small camper that they said was approximately#2500lbs the amount of milage was cut from a reasonable 300 miles between charging to a dismal 100-115 miles before completely discharged and the fast charger was just out of reach. But do you know if you can use the Range extenders while you drive or do you have to be parked?

    • Billy Putnam
      Billy Putnam  23 hours back

      @Trigger Troll you are the only one that has actually hit the bullseye that most of the time ev people Miss becouse of the Starry New Shiney car's! It's not until you Ask a car to Go to WORK that these EV Vehicles are really Showing there Short comings and goings. The other things that it would have been nice for the testing done would have been a exact loop\Weight\Speed\Time tests!? Like the unloaded [email protected] with the same driver doing the same thing. Then Car\Empty trailer and then proceed with a set amount of weight added to the trailer until the maximum amount of recommend towing capacity is reached. And it looked like the computer was working well enough to get a basic idea of miles to completely drained. But the way they just did a Approximately the trailers weighed in at the information isn't that specific to actually get a Real informed amount of distance and weight for a usage point of view? Like is there a certain amount of weight of trailer and cargo we're there's not a lot of difference in drag\weight and the milage is still available. Like a small lightweight Aluminum trailer and a regular sized four wheeler or a two wide snowmobile trailer is still light enough for reasonable mileage? There's quite a few variables that they didn't think about before they attempted the Long haul run to go camping. Also does anyone know if you use the gas powered range extender in the trailer\Camper work driving down the road or does it have to be parked and off for the charging system to work? And if you have a bigger diesel Generator that has a 240Volt\400Amp out put where's the line between draining the batteries and charging?

  • Robert Hampton
    Robert Hampton  51 minutes back

    Those are the fatal flaws? Ya it’s going to be less when there is more resistance. That’s a given. Hardly fatal flaws though.

    • Mr Jay
      Mr Jay  5 hours back

      EV manufactures for vehicles made to tow could explore and design these vehicles with wind powered battery charging turbines/fans in the grill area on a moving vehicle to boost range. This air perhaps could also be directed for cooling motors?
      Just seems like a natural element that could be used to boost these beasts?

      • NOR TH
        NOR TH  14 hours back

        With my car I get 260 miles on a full tank with about 200lbs inside and a 200lb rooftop tent that is a box, not at all aero. I daily drive that way. The problem with electric I think is the distance of your trip and where you can charge. If I was going on an overland roadtrip with an electric vehicle, I'd be backing a serious solar setup so I didnt have to pay stupid money for a tow.

        I'd rather have gas in overland and have some cans

        • tossed but not sunk ss
          tossed but not sunk ss  16 hours back

          I dont even consider that offroading , they had to go down a dirt road. I've seen some of the biggest piece of shit cars go through worse with no problems. Personally I don't like battery operated cars, yeah they are fast off the line and can get up there in speed , I could of told you that almost 10 years ago when you race a electric rc car vs a gas powered one but its about 10-20 minutes of fun and the day is over unless you have a ton of extra batteries and you can just keep refilling the gas tank on the other one.

          • Cameron
            Cameron  16 hours back

            A lot of twisted half-truth in this video. FYI a Ford f250 gets 9 mpg towing a horse trailer, that's 207 miles range ;)

            • Kelly Farr
              Kelly Farr  18 hours back

              Also worth mentioning, tesla has an entirely different line of vehicles for towing. So you guys look like complete goofs for lack of research

              • Kelly Farr
                Kelly Farr  18 hours back

                you fools need an electric engineer!

                • Kelly Farr
                  Kelly Farr  18 hours back

                  your wrong on both counts!!! few people who have trucks actually need one, usually a penis extension for small personalities. you are very, very, very wrong and will be proven foolish in less than 2 years. Nice try though jackass

                  • Estik
                    Estik  23 hours back

                    honestly this whole thing sounds all like fud, fud and more fud

                    • Dan Sanger
                      Dan Sanger  1 days back

                      It will take a few more years of cost reductions and energy density increases before electric towing becomes practical. The good news is that it's happening. Battery prices have gone down 87% since 2010. Energy density has also increased, but not by as much. Bottom line is that it will happen. It's only a question of when.

                      • AlvinRey83
                        AlvinRey83  1 days back

                        Best truck is the 2019 Ram Rebel Ecodiesel. Electric vehicles are simply not made to last outdoors. The more you tow the more battery consumption which equals way less driving range. The technology is not considered efficient for off roading yet.Maybe in a few more years.

                        • CYBRTRK
                          CYBRTRK  1 days back

                          Funny, when Ford tells everyone the MPG for the F150, nobody says "BUT WHAT ABOUT WHEN IT's TOWING?!?!?" More Tesla FUD as usual. Of COURSE it doesn't have as much range. Who is driving 200 miles off road? LMFAO #FakeNews

                          • Joe Martinez
                            Joe Martinez  1 days back

                            then again after 22 seconds after listening to you know i know why you said that

                            • Joe Martinez
                              Joe Martinez  1 days back

                              since theres no such thing in history as an Achilles Heel i geuess my pre order is safe

                              • Nicholas Roulston
                                Nicholas Roulston  2 days back

                                This a garbage concept for a video, but good for you capitalizing on all the Cybertruck buzz. How does making a video about electric TRUCKS range while towing make sense when driving a crossover aka wanna be SUV the model X?

                                • gargola90520
                                  gargola90520  2 days back

                                  Tesla vs winter storm?

                                  • The Huguenot
                                    The Huguenot  2 days back

                                    If you're going so fast down the road, why not some sort of windmill to absorb that wind and convert to energy

                                    • Joe Falzon
                                      Joe Falzon  2 days back

                                      But also remember the trailer is close to max towing capacity of the vehicle and how many ICE/EV owners are going to tow something on the edge of their vehicles max capacity, whether or not on a regular basis?

                                      • Greg Kral
                                        Greg Kral  2 days back

                                        Wonder how they would perform at minus 25-40 C. I have trouble thinking they would do anything useful in Canada or Russia.

                                        • Paul Sullivan
                                          Paul Sullivan  2 days back

                                          Get ready for the next disruption. Tesla is well aware of the lack of battery energy density for towing. Tesla will bring its battery, motor and software technology to the trailer market in the form of a "skateboard" platform. The trailers manufacturers will benefit from safety and performance features found on Tesla vehicles; traction control, regenerative braking, slip start, air suspension, etc. The trailer will communicate with the vehicle through manufactures apps drawing on decades of towing knowledge. We're about to enter into a new era of smart trailers.

                                          • Absurdicuss
                                            Absurdicuss  2 days back

                                            You lost me already less than one minute into the video. All trucks face less mpg undertow. case dismissed.. most trucks lose up to 50% mpg undertow. More charging stations will solve this in the future.

                                            • Joseph Pham
                                              Joseph Pham  2 days back

                                              Pointless video when is the last time a gasoline truck manufacturer put out specs on towing mpgs?.... Never lol better luck next time 🤣😅😅😂

                                              • Osama al afghanee
                                                Osama al afghanee  2 days back

                                                I think it still outperforms other electric cars.

                                                • James Miller
                                                  James Miller  2 days back

                                                  suvs these days are ment for middle aged people in big citys that hate driving and find it a chore not a thing of joy

                                                  • Chang Noi
                                                    Chang Noi  2 days back

                                                    Who is going to tow a horse trailer with a sedan?

                                                    • Dick B.
                                                      Dick B.  3 days back

                                                      The question is, these EV’s are close to $100k USD. Who is going to take these things off road or pulling a trailer. 3 out of 100 maybe. This is a non-issue to the majority of EV buyers.

                                                      • John Stoner For Life
                                                        John Stoner For Life  3 days back

                                                        Euroopean roads has slower speed limits 🤣🤣🤣. Germany has roads with NO SPEED LIMITS you can drive 500mph if you have balls and street legal vehicle..

                                                        and 120kmh is common thing 85mph is 128khm. so American roads isn't that much faster few mph..

                                                        and roads in the US is in terrible condition, so how often you can even drive that max speed?🤣🤣🤣

                                                        • Mc Bain
                                                          Mc Bain  3 days back

                                                          Ridiculously low car with road tyres nothing surprising here ? Batteries just aint good enough yet , and like you say plugging into a tree is not going to do a lot .

                                                          • trachris carrick
                                                            trachris carrick  3 days back

                                                            This is ridiculous. Most SUV drivers drive to the mall and back. I bet a lot of pickup drivers too. Heavy hauling and off roading is a niche, not the mainstream.

                                                            • Michael Scott
                                                              Michael Scott  3 days back

                                                              Charge it with a gas generator. 🤣😂😂 swap out battery packs at convenience stores just like propane tanks.

                                                              • ryan
                                                                ryan  3 days back

                                                                Forget all these electric cars. I have a cure . EMP

                                                                • John Doe
                                                                  John Doe  3 days back

                                                                  1:10 "offroading" goes through 1/2" of water on gravel lol.

                                                                  • Freeman Gentlefuck
                                                                    Freeman Gentlefuck  3 days back

                                                                    Yup, 200 kWh weights almost 2 metric tones.

                                                                    • Shri
                                                                      Shri  3 days back

                                                                      I didn't knew Tesal model X is a truck or an offroad vehicle and still it nailed every task bravo Tesla.

                                                                      • VoltecRules
                                                                        VoltecRules  3 days back

                                                                        Why would you start with 67% battery for this test. So dumb. You pretend gas trucks don’t go from 17 mpg to 6 mpg pulling the same trailers.

                                                                        • Rob P
                                                                          Rob P  3 days back

                                                                          Does anyone post trailer or off road fuel economy? The answer is no as there are too many variables from weight to gradient. Regardless of fuel type it's expected that higher loads equal higher consumption. Who hauls a horse trailer with a sedan anyway how about comparing truck (liquid fuel) to truck (electric) both designed to carry heavier loads.

                                                                          • lochinvar00465
                                                                            lochinvar00465  3 days back

                                                                            At highway speed my truck has a range of about 600 miles.Unladen of course.

                                                                            • Poorold plowboy
                                                                              Poorold plowboy  3 days back

                                                                              You have valid points for a minority of truck drivers, but face up to the fact that most people who own trucks never put them in the woods and I even know truck owners who will not even put anything in the bed for fear of scratching it. A huge percentage of truck owners own a truck as a status symbol. ie the King Ranch edition Ford, what use is that to a working person who is going to rough up the vehicle on their job? A small percentage of people spend all their time out in the wild with no recharge available and as for long haul, this is going to change with better batteries and more charging stations. And when gas prices shoot back up (as they will) everyone who ran out to buy a big V8 is gonna see a hole in their pocket. The Saudis and other OPEC countries are meeting to cut production to raise prices as I write this.

                                                                              • Jay Luccioni
                                                                                Jay Luccioni  3 days back

                                                                                why not make the outer shell solar panels

                                                                                • Timothy Hogan
                                                                                  Timothy Hogan  3 days back

                                                                                  Trailer should somehow recharge the main vehicle by harnessing kinetic energy from the trailer axle and be able to deliver that captured energy back into the power unit.

                                                                                  • OffGrid Wanabe
                                                                                    OffGrid Wanabe  3 days back

                                                                                    So basically you took a subcompact car and tried to evaluate it as a truck Come On Man be realistic.

                                                                                    • Wookiemonsterfreak
                                                                                      Wookiemonsterfreak  3 days back

                                                                                      ETrailer! Hmmm . . . If it dies, then that is a heavy dead weight. Will the trailer regen if towed?

                                                                                      • Jeff Sam
                                                                                        Jeff Sam  3 days back

                                                                                        This is a CAR, not a 4x4 jeep, your comments on off road experience was way off base. This car did just fine on that super rough, rocky and uneven road, that even most pickup trucks would have issues with. The Test should have been with off road tires, not Continental Super smooth rolling road tires meant for hard smooth pavement. I am in agreement with Towing capability and , there is no way anyone would drive one hour and then charge for one hour.

                                                                                        • Brandon Bissett
                                                                                          Brandon Bissett  3 days back

                                                                                          This video just told me to buy a rebel cus that truck looked aggressive af

                                                                                          • Greg Vinson
                                                                                            Greg Vinson  3 days back

                                                                                            So proceeding from the premise that all electric pickups have this problem including Tesla's, you set out to prove that the truck has the problem of limited range while towing a heavy load, by testing the towing performance of one of their....cars?


                                                                                            That makes as much sense as taste testing cream of wheat by eating a bowl of oatmeal.

                                                                                            • Tim Rosencrans
                                                                                              Tim Rosencrans  4 days back

                                                                                              Refuel a real truck 10 min... Tesla 2 hours.

                                                                                              • mavallarino
                                                                                                mavallarino  4 days back

                                                                                                Load a diesel generator on the trailer