The sad truth about Little Mac in Smash - An Ultimate character analysis

  • Published: 10 June 2019
  • I talk about Little Mac for a long time.

    This is a video I've been working on for quite a while. And is something I have been considering making for even longer. But it's finally done. In this video we take an in depth look at little mac. In an attempt to find out what works and what does not. Either way, I hope you enjoy it.

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  • G. Lee
    G. Lee  3 days back

    Little Mac works as a joke character that’s meant to be bad

    • Mamodokod
      Mamodokod  5 days back

      I use lil mac's nair all the time it's in my opinion the best drag down nair in the game and it combos into jab and probably other stuff I just haven't tried. And you can use it to drag down characters to death.

      • No WackyTobaccy
        No WackyTobaccy  1 weeks back

        His flaws would be alright if they made him immune to grabs and it would fit his theme because he would be. Nimble and agile at 107 p

        • MaverickArrowMusik
          MaverickArrowMusik  1 weeks back

          Wrong. Greninja has the single worst counter in the game. Thanks for the tios tho. Subscribbled

          • Arenn Dups
            Arenn Dups  1 weeks back

            Do I hear danganronpa??!!

            • Actually Wario
              Actually Wario  1 weeks back

              Remember son dying is gay

              • Mystic Josh
                Mystic Josh  2 weeks back

                Well i dont care nigga 💯

                • Rabano Doom
                  Rabano Doom  2 weeks back

                  I think what really breaks him is just comparison outside of a vacuum. There are characters with a ground game equal to if not better than mac. Even if a sonic, fox, wolf, pikachu, joker, pokemon trainer, snake, etc. exclusively played against mac on the ground, it still would be a challenging experience for mac. The fact that there are characters in this game with equal or even superior strength on the ground to him *without* all of mac's glaring problems just annihilates his character

                  • Lovable Pervert
                    Lovable Pervert  2 weeks back

                    Much respect to lil mac mains

                    • genjama
                      genjama  2 weeks back

                      platforms are lame, straight up fight or not at all

                      • El Game'o Cammando
                        El Game'o Cammando  2 weeks back

               always get up!

                        • t-bone007
                          t-bone007  2 weeks back

                          Please send this clip to Nintendo.

                          • TheYoshiman222
                            TheYoshiman222  2 weeks back

                            If anything, he needs more invincibility when using moves like side-b and dodges on the ground. Maybe boost his grab range, and allow him to travel farther to the side when recovering (or recover side-b when attacked). Counter on ground should be almost broken if used rarely. Up special shouldn't get a range nerf when used in the air, moreso a power nerf. Neutral B should be good for falling. He should have complete invincibility during his entire side B when used on the ground to face ranged opponents. In short, give him more options when on the ground when facing opponents (from a distance and above) , and slightly boost his recovery. Could also increase the size of his aerials (not damage).

                            • WayFar Graham
                              WayFar Graham  2 weeks back

                              Mac’s down special should be him throwing one of his boots. It would basically do what gun does to people mid air.

                              • Richard Nixon
                                Richard Nixon  2 weeks back

                                I main little Mac oof

                                • Scyle Ornitier
                                  Scyle Ornitier  2 weeks back

                                  Complaining about balance in Smash is hilarious. It's not a fighting game. Don't expect it to cater to balance and professional settings. It's played for fun. Deal with it.

                                  • GPAngel
                                    GPAngel  3 weeks back

                                    Watching Smash 4 reminds me how slow this game was compared to Ultimate

                                    • Simplify6
                                      Simplify6  3 weeks back

                                      Smash 4: Slow fall speed on Mac is bad.

                                      Smash Ultimate: Fast fall speed on Mac is bad.

                                      • HUNK
                                        HUNK  3 weeks back

                                        Skip to 4:34 when he starts actually to divulge into the character.

                                        Tl:dw. He talks abou using Smash 4 as his main focus because that is where the cuaracter starts and eleborate the changes for Ultimate.

                                        • Speedy Pichu
                                          Speedy Pichu  3 weeks back

                                          Pichu! (They are thinking about his design, he is a swarmer type of boxer that is why he has no range, I think what would help is making his ground and air game better, obviously)

                                          • Fabio Neves
                                            Fabio Neves  3 weeks back

                                            omg u guys saying he's WORST CHARACTER at smash but y'being so dumb. At ultimate he's very much buffed

                                            • Nuclear Nyt Gaming
                                              Nuclear Nyt Gaming  3 weeks back

                                              I will prove Mac's viability

                                              • Dreamer of Words
                                                Dreamer of Words  3 weeks back

                                                1:27 the epic pause before the criticism.

                                                • pokemon master
                                                  pokemon master  3 weeks back

                                                  I would have put a stun on little mac's counter that way you can either escape or combo it into a jab and up special.

                                                  • Gas Master
                                                    Gas Master  3 weeks back

                                                    Ya he’s bad but he’s really fun to be bad with

                                                    • Nathan T1128
                                                      Nathan T1128  3 weeks back

                                                      You suck with little mac

                                                      • Omega Storm
                                                        Omega Storm  4 weeks back

                                                        Someplayers are really scary with Mac but you the character notorious weakness are still there.

                                                        • Nathaniel Beyer
                                                          Nathaniel Beyer  4 weeks back

                                                          Little Mac needs a few buffs.
                                                          One, they should make it so that a grounded K.O. punch keeps him on stage near the ledge, so he doesn’t throw himself off a cliff.
                                                          Two, it would be nice if you could angle his recovery to a slight margin. Like 15° Left or right from its 12:00 direction.

                                                          • epicmemegamerlord
                                                            epicmemegamerlord  4 weeks back

                                                            Let’s leave smash 4... forever *3 seconds later * so in smash 4 Mac was bad

                                                            • Martin M.
                                                              Martin M.  3 weeks back

                                                              I thought the exact same thing 😂😂😂

                                                          • Technicolor Mischief-Maker

                                                            DON’T THINK I DON’T HEAR RUMIA’S STAGE THEME IN THE BACKGROUND
                                                            YOU CAN’T HIDE FROM ME

                                                            • Rage Master
                                                              Rage Master  4 weeks back

                                                              Atleast he doesn't have a stall and fall

                                                              • BasketPaul
                                                                BasketPaul  4 weeks back

                                                                I played Mac a lot in Sm4sh to prove he wasn't bad.
                                                                I feel bad for dropping him completely in Ultimate.
                                                                Maybe Nintendo will buff him enough to not be the Yamcha of Smash.

                                                                • The Bananaconda
                                                                  The Bananaconda  4 weeks back

                                                                  Basically if you want kills with Mac, you gotta stay near the edge. But if you stay near the edge, you get killed.

                                                                  • Son_of_Scoonami 117
                                                                    Son_of_Scoonami 117  1 months back

                                                                    I rarely miss that Ko punch, it's so useful you lead the target in and kill them at 20% it's so good.

                                                                    • FeministMemes
                                                                      FeministMemes  1 months back

                                                                      need a seizure warning at around 11:00 bro

                                                                      • TrxppyVibez x
                                                                        TrxppyVibez x  1 months back

                                                                        Shout out to all the Mac mains, Screw what the haters say.
                                                                        You are a Champ!

                                                                        • Mugenri
                                                                          Mugenri  1 months back

                                                                          1:46 I thought I heard touhou music

                                                                          • Galaxy guy
                                                                            Galaxy guy  1 months back

                                                                            I’d like to shake the hand of the man who thought nerfing mac was a good idea and rip it’s off

                                                                            • Krystal Myth
                                                                              Krystal Myth  1 months back

                                                                              Poor design. Done without much love or understanding of their own game. Sakurai is a bit of a flake.

                                                                              • Elliot Virggo
                                                                                Elliot Virggo  1 months back

                                                                                Little Mac might be a dog with missing ear and broken leg, but I'd still love on him.

                                                                                • Martin M.
                                                                                  Martin M.  1 months back

                                                                                  The big problems are not his recovery, his aerials and also not his grab in this transition to ultimate. He got buffed on these things, however they are all still the worst and not viable. His aerials have reduced frames of landing lag, but it doesn't matter since his aerials still lack of range, knockback and damageoutput. I don't say it should be buffed but this is fact. His grab has little more range but has more lag. His throws are still pretty useless. He has no kill throw, his only viable combo throw is his dthrow at lower and mid percents. His recovery is not any better or worse, on one side you can jump and up b after side b, on the other side one single hit of an enemie after aerial side b means his dead. It doesn't matter if he's at 0% or 100%. But the worst thing they did is that they nerfed his great ground game. His ground game is still good, but this doesn't balance his weaknesses out. The biggest nerf he got that too many combo abilities were taken away. His dtilt almost doesn't combo into anything due to its increased bkb, more endlag and the new angle that pushes opponents more away, d angled fsmash has much more knockback, the ledge cancel ko punch is gone, the ultimate nerf to jab made him much worse because he can't do the kill confirm jab-jab-up b anymore, jab-jab-dtilt and jab-jab-uptilt are gone. His buff to up b doesn't help him much if he can just travel a little bit higher and if he lost his jab-jab-up b combo. The removal of perfect pivot harms him heavenly. It sometimes helped his uptilt if you want perform the uptilt up b or uptilt dtilt combo. Also a big problem is that HE can be comboed much easier now because he is heavier and has much more falling speed. Plus I feel his dsmash hitbox is smaller because enemies aren't hit so often anymore if you ledge guard. The only noticeable buff they gave him is that his side b is not an accidental suicide punch any more. I also like that they added shake and zoom effect on all of his smash attacks. The fact that he can cancel his neutral b by shielding and can be turned around doesn't make this move much better because you just use it when the enemies shied is broken. But then there was a chance to benefit from the "attacking after dash cancel mechanic" - but he didn't. As I said his ground game is nerfed (combo game) he doesn't benefit much from this mechanic. The only thing that got really buffed is the much better dash dance. But this buff got everybody in smash and I wonder why. Characters like Ike shouldn't able to perform the dash dance. What I want to say is he gained almost nothing and I mean ALMOST NOTHING in ssbu.
                                                                                  My summary: He is worse in ssbu than in ssb4 because he still has the worst aerial, worst recovery, worst grab, got nerfed on his ground game, but his buffs on his specials are pretty rediculous, because his play style is to keep on the ground and use and use normal attacks (neutral, tilt and smash) and not spamming special attacks. And I almost forget to say that he is a character now, that have almost no combo options, but can be comboed easier. I like him in smash 4 and they have to buff his ground game again. If were able to buff him I would give him some comboes, especially his smash 4 dtilt and also less fall speed I don't mean his fast fall speed, so he can't be comboed so easily and to balance it out I would give him less midair jump height and less air speed because he's supposed to be on the ground, nerf his whole aerial mobility a bit. Then he is pretty good in this game. If they do these changes I will put him in the C tier or even bottom B tier. It's so sad what Nintendo made with him and what they were thinking about. I like him a lot more in smash 4. Now he's not that bad as everybody says, but also not that good.
                                                                                  Thank you for reading and good bye.
                                                                                  -former little mac main in smash ultimate

                                                                                  • Samuel Z
                                                                                    Samuel Z  1 months back

                                                                                    This so depressing as a mac main xD

                                                                                    • Vaughn Sheehan
                                                                                      Vaughn Sheehan  1 months back

                                                                                      Please tell me what the actual fuck happened at 21:50

                                                                                      • Limbo
                                                                                        Limbo  1 months back

                                                                                        Oilimar's head moved just far enough to the side (in this case the z-axis) that Mac's fist missed
                                                                                        Note that the Olimar's head hurtbox has gotten bigger since this clip was made and Mac's hitboxes are pretty small, in this case encompassing his fist and not much else

                                                                                    • Spankamo
                                                                                      Spankamo  1 months back

                                                                                      I know everyone craps on Mac, but I still play him, I have fun playong with him, and that's what should matter in playing and maining a character, well that and functionality. And I will admit, he doesn't function that well, but winning with him feels so rewarding, and I can't argue against that, because he functions terribly. I don't understand it, but I like playing and maining him as one of my mains. I also really enjoy the character himself for personal reasons. But when I get taunted or lose, I just look at it as motivation to keep using him and get better with him. To conclude my thoughts, I know he's flawed, but a character being useless or useful, is all based on how you use them, that is the philosophy I go by when choosing characters, or anything really, to be honest. Feel free to leave your thoughts, or even criticism below, because I can take criticism and all that.

                                                                                      • Feghost
                                                                                        Feghost  1 months back

                                                                                        I am thoroughly convinced that a designer for smash bros just hates punch out and takes it out on mac. Poor mac

                                                                                        • SomewhatGamer
                                                                                          SomewhatGamer  1 months back

                                                                                          People who camp little Mac are pathetic cowards, "I'm gonna get the percent lead and win :D" yeah noone is ever gonna respect you for that, and if someone camps deliberately they should honestly let sudden death determine the match

                                                                                          • Iselder
                                                                                            Iselder  1 months back

                                                                                            19:15 did that just fucking kill at 0%?

                                                                                            • kevin lin
                                                                                              kevin lin  1 months back

                                                                                              Let’s come back to this vid after every patch to see if Little Mac has improved since this vid